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Post by richardw on Aug 2, 2015 14:56:59 GMT -5
Good looking flower head Joesph, to have the bulbils fall out of the flower head is initially the ultimate aim but i suppose then the next step would be to select for ones that dont even produce bulbils at all.
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Post by kazedwards on Aug 2, 2015 16:46:22 GMT -5
Wow that is one impressive flower head!
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Post by raymondo on Aug 4, 2015 5:40:44 GMT -5
What he said!
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Post by billw on Sept 6, 2015 15:54:13 GMT -5
So far, my seed-grown garlics haven't been a much better than the parents, but this one is looking promising (from Ivan Buddenhagen seed):  |
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Post by richardw on Sept 7, 2015 15:19:22 GMT -5
Good luck Bill, do you think time wise its getting late in your season?
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Post by billw on Sept 7, 2015 16:10:19 GMT -5
It is getting into the wet season, which may make it impossible to collect seed, but we probably have about 3 months to go before frost. I'd give it a 50% chance of producing usable seed this late.
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Post by richardw on Sept 18, 2015 14:21:55 GMT -5
These three garlic grown plants came from bulbs that kept for a year without sprouting or going soft, it was mid summer so i put the bulbs in the fridge for 6 weeks and then sowed in pots which went into the tunnelhouse,(i showed them in the video but the camera was rather fogged up at that point alanbishop.proboards.com/thread/8139/richards-patch ) They launched there shoots out within 5-6 days, they stayed in the tunnelhouse till the first day of winter then spent the three winter months outside. I brought them back inside 1st Sep for about 6 and plan to plant out in amoung the other tps and bulbil grown beds. What ive noticed is they appear to be stretching as though they are developing a scape, if they are and considering its only early spring this will give these plants plenty of time to develop seed, i may well do this again this summer but do far more plants  |
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Post by kazedwards on Sept 19, 2015 0:21:09 GMT -5
Wow those are very healthy plants!
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Post by richardw on Sept 19, 2015 2:25:20 GMT -5
They have done well since going back inside into the warm.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 29, 2015 0:41:09 GMT -5
Fresh crop of seed from PI540319. I expect more seeds shortly. I let these ripen on the roots in the field. The earliest seed pods are just opening. That's a really low yield considering the number of plants. But what the heck... Gotta start somewhere.  |
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Post by richardw on Sept 29, 2015 2:26:13 GMT -5
Youve got a few good sized ones there too.
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Post by kazedwards on Oct 24, 2015 15:52:31 GMT -5
Here is the best seedling out of the TGS that I planted in the spring. http://instagram.com/p/9O9f5yCpzv http://instagram.com/p/9O9lfEipz7 http://instagram.com/p/9O9mqmCpz_ I have bulbils bigger! But not bad for first attempt. And it stayed indoors the most the year. What a root system though. http://instagram.com/p/9O9neGCp0B Here is my question. Should I plant with the normal garlic or wait till spring? Maybe put it in the fridge for a few weeks then pot it up? Any thoughts? Also anyone have any luck getting true seed this year? I know Joseph had some. I have seen a few from my heads but 95 percent hasn't dried enough to release the seed. So it will be a few months before I know how much I have. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Oct 24, 2015 18:23:46 GMT -5
Good work on that garlic seedling!!!
If you are not worried about critters eating it, then I'd plant it now. I have stored garlic all winter in the fridge with a bit of potting soil with them in a plastic bag.
I still have some more seed heads to check for seeds. They are dry already... I'm a day's worth of work away from getting my fields put to rest for the winter. So maybe after that's done, I'll plant garlic and then look for seeds.
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Post by richardw on Oct 25, 2015 0:36:54 GMT -5
To me i think its become too root bound as the pot is far to small to grow well, remembering garlic likes to pull its self down as it forms its bulb, needs plenty of room to spread its room.
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Post by Al on Oct 25, 2015 8:14:03 GMT -5
This might be a little off-thread, but somewhat related given the earlier posts about sterility in alliums which propagate by multiplying, rakkyo raises similar problems as getting Garlic seed. I have some Allium chinense (rakkyo) which has produced nice little bulbs from tiny little grass-like plants I received last year. It is throwing up little flowers, which is normal. I have read that flowering takes place after a summer dormancy, & the timing has in fact proved to be later than any other allium I have grown, even later than garlic chives. In fact, flowering is so late I wonder if it is actually more sensible to view it as super-early. Any ripe seed from flowers produced at the tail end of the year, would be shed onto the ground in early Spring. Except that all descriptions I have read of this plant say it is sterile & does not produce viable seed. So I have been surprised to see what appear to be perfect little flowers, not just puny vestigial scapes. I will be tickling the flowers with a paint brush & watching closely on the off chance that rakkyo can make the occasional seed if conditions are right. If Allium chinense truly never produces any seed why does it bother to make any flower at all? Could it be some ancient hybrid which is just hopelessly confused? Those with better knowledge of genetics than me might be able to explain this.  IMG_1975 by Alex Taylor, on Flickr  IMG_1974 by Alex Taylor, on Flickr |
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