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Post by olddog on Nov 16, 2011 23:21:13 GMT -5
Oh, also just remembered that there was another apple nursery up in northern California, but not sure if he is still in business, but the owner's name was Ram Fishman, and he may have some court-pendu-plat or maybe know where you could find some.
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Post by castanea on Nov 17, 2011 0:22:52 GMT -5
Oh, also just remembered that there was another apple nursery up in northern California, but not sure if he is still in business, but the owner's name was Ram Fishman, and he may have some court-pendu-plat or maybe know where you could find some. www.greenmantlenursery.com/
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Post by Hristo on Nov 17, 2011 17:43:54 GMT -5
My best keeper is the one in the middle. It's sinap type apple (they all are excellent keepers), but I'm not sure about the name, probably Kamchiyska Sinapka. Taste is good and it keeps until temps in the basement start to rise, i.e. May. The one in top right may be good keeper too. About month ago accidentally noticed a few unusually flat apples on a tree in an abandoned property. Initially I thought it's Court Pendu Plat, because of the flat shape, and the creamy-yellow very dense flesh. But I'm not sure it is. The external color is a bit different, the shape is flat and elongated instead of flat and round, and lastly Court Pendu Plat is not popular in Bulgaria, to say the least.
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Post by olddog on Nov 23, 2011 10:59:56 GMT -5
Those apples in your photo look scrumptious, I wonder if the sinap one is similar to the Kandil Sinap they have for sale around here. Yours actually looks so much like it. You are lucky that they keep until May. Here the weather gets so warm, most of the apples are gone by January, though a cool room does not really have the best conditions, compared to a cellar. Some I keep in the refrigerator, and those last longer.
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Post by Hristo on Nov 24, 2011 14:31:44 GMT -5
There are many sinap type varieties out there. I do not have Kandil, but according to the pomologies I have Kamchiyska Sinapka is though to be more similar to Sary Sinap, which is thought to be the seed parent of Kandil. I do not have Sary either, but according to the descriptions mine does not fit either of them. Kandil is uniform red on the sunny side: ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Êàíäèëü_Ñèíàïwww.eastmansantiqueapples.com/varieties/images/Sinap,%20Kandil.jpg this one is never uniform red. Also Kandil's fruit is tender/fragile, while this one's is not. Sary has white dots on the skin (Kandil has them too), this one has not. The bottom right one is low quality and I will top work it. Both on the left side (do not know their names, but I think they are some commercial varieties from the near past - 30+ years) are very good tasting sweet/sour, but no much aroma/flavors. The sinap has no much flavor either, but overall taste wise I really like them.
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Post by MikeH on Apr 9, 2013 18:38:34 GMT -5
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 9, 2013 20:14:20 GMT -5
I think they put the fruit of the Swiss tree under the care of ProSpecies Rara.....
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Post by MikeH on Apr 10, 2013 1:52:08 GMT -5
I think they put the fruit of the Swiss tree under the care of ProSpecies Rara..... Nice tip, Holly. From it, I was able to find this - www.bdn.ch/variety/14-001-938/
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 10, 2013 6:43:32 GMT -5
I have too much insect damage for any to be good keepers but I like looking at yours.
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Post by MikeH on Apr 10, 2013 9:50:56 GMT -5
I have too much insect damage for any to be good keepers but I like looking at yours. Michael Phillips outlines a companion planting/permaculture guild approach that uses dynamic accumulators and beneficial accumulators. He also uses ramial wood chips to create something he calls fungal duff. It would seem that he has good results using this in conjunction with timely applications of neem oil which is banned in Canada. We plan on converting our orchard to Phillips' holistic approach. At worst, the pollinators will love it and I'll have less time on the riding mower. Here's an extract from Phillips' Holistic Orchard - The Buzz on Biodiversity.
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Post by richardw on Apr 10, 2013 14:45:47 GMT -5
The holistic approach certainly works,this summers crop was 100% codling moth free while trees under a km away were full of the bugs,i use comfrey but dont worry about having grass in the orchard.
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Post by MikeH on Apr 10, 2013 16:05:19 GMT -5
Brilliant, Richard. What all is growing there besides the comfrey? Is that yarrow I see in the foreground?
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Post by richardw on Apr 10, 2013 21:41:18 GMT -5
Its mainly yarrow red and while clover,Alfalfa and what ever grasses that wish to grow there other than couch grass,any of that gets a foot hold Mr roundup is called in to deal to it Thats a Loquat tree to the right Mike,lost half of it last winter to a heavy snow fall
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Post by steev on Apr 10, 2013 22:30:34 GMT -5
Never thought of loquats and snow together; I assume your snow doesn't hang around long?
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Post by richardw on Apr 11, 2013 1:07:46 GMT -5
No pretty much only hangs around for a few days,thats a seed grown loquat which are a lot tougher than cutting grown for some reason,i know now that i'll need to shake the snow off before it gets too heavy on it.
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