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Post by babyboy on Oct 3, 2011 22:46:12 GMT -5
I have been watching Rebsie's red-podded pea project and thought about trying it. So when I found this yellow pod on a pea plant while cleaning up the garden, I realized that I am half way there. I have been growing the snow pea 'Snowflake' for a number of years and this is the first yellow pea to appear. It's possible that there may have been more on the plant but since the garden is removed from me and also harvested by the property owner, it's an unknown. My question is, "Would the plant have had all yellow pods or could it be that there was only one yellow pod on the plant?" Next year will see what these seeds yield. s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/blaamand/?action=view¤t=Snowflake.jpg |
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Post by raymondo on Oct 4, 2011 0:53:16 GMT -5
My question is, "Would the plant have had all yellow pods or could it be that there was only one yellow pod on the plant?" Both are possible though I think the former more likely than the latter, but who knows. Does the person who harvested the peas know? |
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Post by babyboy on Oct 4, 2011 9:30:25 GMT -5
When I asked if she had seen any yellow peas, she said, "No, they just tasted good."
Although the garden is on private property and behind a chain link fence with a gate, in the last two years, the peas also get harvested by persons unknown. It is obvious because they make a clean sweep. Not one pea left for supper.
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 4, 2011 12:07:41 GMT -5
I really hate the 2 legged harvesters. They are almost worse than vile voles. This year I put up an electric fence after the wild pig destruction and I didn't have any trouble with my melons this year.
However, twice this week, someone has made a clean sweep of the chicken houses. That's 2 dozen eggs that got legs. I had turned off the fence for a couple of days as we were harvesting the amaranth right next to the fence. The traveling chickens are right near the amaranth.
On some of Dr. Kapuler's peas this year there were purple peas, green peas and some that were purple on one side and green on the other all on the same plant.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Oct 4, 2011 17:32:36 GMT -5
Based on your picture it looks as though the seeds are also yellow and not green like all the ones in the one next to it. we know that the trait for yellow pods is not linked to yellow seeds, so this suggest to me that either a different variety got mixed in with the others (in which case all the pods were yellow), or this pod for some reason mutated and lost its chlorophyll. It's hard to say, but at this point I'm thinking it was the latter (in which case you wont get yellow podded next year). but, i don't know for sure.
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Post by babyboy on Oct 4, 2011 20:16:56 GMT -5
... we know that the trait for yellow pods is not linked to yellow seeds, so this suggest to me that either a different variety got mixed in with the others ...
Thanks for the information. The seeds were collected from the previous year. It's posssible that I unwittingly planted a yellow pea. Since there is some variation in seed colour, I may not have thought much about it. It was only later in the year that I became aware of yellow-podded peas and red-podded peas.
Yes, next year will tell. I will keep you posted.
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Post by canadamike on Oct 4, 2011 20:35:01 GMT -5
A mutation is a remote possibility, but I sure vote with keen on this one. I strongly suspect stress or environmental factors, whatever they are, to be the cause of that. This kind of stuff happened to me often, like in the case of the famous yellow collards who turned out very green in my very rich compost loaded soil years ago.
I am now the owner of a gorgeous bicolor ( yellow and green) bamboo plant that was always green and became that beautiful lil'thing once I moved and put it on our front balcony in my new home....
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Post by babyboy on Oct 5, 2011 9:34:18 GMT -5
Thank you all for your replies.
I think I understand. This is not a genetic display but rather an environmental display. When planted, these seeds will grow and produce normal plants and pods. And quite tasty ones too.
I must confess that when I first saw the seeds, I thought they were white.
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Post by babyboy on Apr 30, 2012 10:12:10 GMT -5
Just a follow up on my "yellow" peas. I planted the peas under lights but nothing germinated. I grew other peas in the same tray under the same lights and with the same growing media.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 30, 2012 10:36:29 GMT -5
It's odd that they wouldn't have even germinated. I would have expected them to at least grow until the seed stores were gone and then die if they had a mutation that caused them to loose their chlorophyll. But perhaps if a mutation did occur then perhaps other mutations occurred as well.
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Post by blueadzuki on Apr 30, 2012 13:55:43 GMT -5
Odd things can happen in pea expression. One year, one pod of the little peas I grow for ornamental purposes did seed color flip. Instead of having green seed coats with purple/black speckles I got a pod of peas with purple coats with green speckles. Actually quite attractive, at least while they were fresh, dried down they did not look so pretty (the peas also had the traid for brown mottling, but since those marks don't show up on peas that are not wholly dry, and I harvest my peas as soon as they are mature (lest the pods shatter and spread the seed out of my collecting ability, I don't know till a day or so after collection which are brown mottled and which are not) I re planted those peas the next year (in fact, I planted those soley to make sure all would have the trait,) but they all reverted to normal.
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