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Post by Alan on Oct 25, 2011 23:31:06 GMT -5
Didn't know if you guys had noticed or not but New World Seeds and Tubers/Tater-Mater have a new message board up at www.tatermaterseeds.com/smf/ |
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Post by atash on Oct 26, 2011 12:10:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the plug, Bud. We're moving there (feel free to register and post) because it's on our own server and our own domain. It's one of Tom's old domains back when he was "Tater-Mater Seeds", which still gets some web-traffic, so might as well direct it somewhere useful. The forums on proboards will stay up until everybody who's interested has found the new board and registered. I know, it's awkward. There's no systematic way of moving.
You probably noticed it because it captures comments made on our blog posts. Otherwise, although I do respond to them, people's comments tend to get un-noticed by other people who might be interested.; this way they start conversations.
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Post by canadamike on Oct 28, 2011 22:43:14 GMT -5
I'll leave you guys to enjoy technical considerations and just give some good news. A lil seed company carrying to the french speaking crowd in »Quebec, which happens to be also well known by french people ( France) will offer potato true seeds from taters I grew from Tom, most of them second generation but very very tatermateresque nevertheless. Patrice, the owner, will do it so Tom gets a percentage of the sales. I was there today, just came back a few minutes ago, it is a 6 hours trip... Tom...I'll try to work on the percentage ;D It is great, as it expands the tps market and makes Tom better known to this market that is really not that bilingual, so Tom will also make new fans. Another good news: Patrice Fortier, the owner of the said comapny, ''LA SOCIÉTÉ DES PLANTES'' ( translated: THE PLANTS SOCIETY) is enamoured with the ROSE DE LUCINE, a potato that Tom relates to SKAGIT BEET. We do not know for sure, but the filiation is evident. The reason why there is a maybe ( but not for Tom nor for me, it is only a ''litterary maybe'' is simple: the year I grew these, and it is related here somewhere in an old post, my friend, a good man weanting to ''help'' decided to work with the weed eater around the then called ''Tom Wagner alley'', not knowing leaving weeds around was also part of the plan. All the small woooden sticks identifying everything, lost in grass, got fucked up...like I said in the post, I thanked him for his effort, he is so kind, but then walked away wanting to kill somebody, or wreck a car, or else ;D I then had to go through the Tom Wagner Alley and give numbers, like A-1, A-2 ( row A, first potato etc....) Well, Patrice, the darn bugger ( I say it with love) is connected directly to NORMAND LAPRISE. For those not in the know, he is considered Canada's no 1 chef, and one of the world's top. He owns the great TOQUÉ restaurant, and if you have money or prestige and go to Montreal without going to TOQUÉ apparently you are not that great, the place is a must for people with more cash than most of us, apart from Darwinslair who works in the insurance business  ( got you Tom!!  ) So Mr Laprise is enamoured with A-38, which I know ( row A) that is from an extra bulk packet of a few hundreds or so seeds Tom had sent me, probably because I sent him a bottle of maple syrup with my order It is a longuish curvy tater, and creamy and apparently soooo delicious cooked, I only tasted it raw. If one of the top chefs in the world loves it, who am I to say no... That fall, I harvested, tasted stuff raw, had time to trial many in all the cooked forms, like boiled, then fried etc....but not all. In February, I joined Patrice in Montreal and we had a potato party, going through more than a hundred clones, rejecting, selecting. He took care of many I did not have the room to grow, we work together...and now A-38 is promised to something big... BTW, Mr Laprise got also enamoured with something else, a numbered rutabaga coming from Scandinavia I got through GRIN-USA that has a clove aftertaste...seed production starting next year...the tubers are stored, finally in numbers large enough... |
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Post by PapaVic on Oct 29, 2011 14:08:06 GMT -5
Tried to register twice. Correctly retyped the coded letters in the correct upper case. Got a message both times: "The user (xxxxxxxxxx) with Email (xxxxxxxxxx) (and my IP#) is a Spam, please contact forum administrator." LOL! Typical. And I should have expected it. Probably just a bunch of ultra-conservative political commentary and doom & gloom prognostications anyway.
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Post by atash on Oct 30, 2011 13:57:14 GMT -5
Michel, thank you for your patronage and support. We appreciate it. PapaVic, someone else got caught in the spam trap too, but he didn't take it personally; he did just what the message told him to and contacted the administrator, who created an account for him. It's unfortunate that thousands of spam registrations interfere with being able to maintain my sites, so that I have to resort to automated spam traps. But judging from your commentary, the spam trap is not the real issue, is it? Personally I feel that politics is the problem, not the solution, so I stay out of partisanship and stick to objective facts and hard-to-argue principles like "don't initiate unprovoked violence or deception". I realize that Tom has shared opinions in the past, but personally I don't see any reason to be offended by other people's sincerely-held beliefs, especially in consideration of the "good intentions" behind them. When people line up behind a political belief, it's not usually because they want to ruin other people's lives, but because they perceive (rightly or wrongly) a reasonable benefit from it. Whether the benefit will really pan out or not, or whether there are perhaps unforeseen consequences, perhaps to someone else, that they haven't considered, is another issue, but I want to make the world a better place by appreciating and being respectful of other people's sincere and well-intentioned beliefs. As for "doom and gloom", is that really an accurate assessment of my occasional warnings? I tend to think of myself as a problem-solver. To solve a problem, you have to acknowledge that one exists. But I don't perceive myself as being someone to helplessly whine and moan. Have you ever heard of the principle " where attention goes, energy flows?" My attention is on solutions, not problems, and I share my solutions with people of good-will. It's all about increasing value in this world.  Maybe our forums and our line of business are just not suited for you, and that's OK.  |
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Post by spacecase0 on Oct 30, 2011 18:45:14 GMT -5
mutuallyassuredsurvival.com will not let me join, it claims that I have been waiting for administrative approval for over 6 months, many forums just will not let you in for no good reason at all. it is the sad reality of trying to block bad things from getting in I say stick to the forums that let you in and ignore the rest, they have no hope of helping anyone if they are that locked down zombie squad is like that, no hope of helping anyone...
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Post by atash on Oct 30, 2011 20:13:20 GMT -5
Spacecase, the reason that mutuallyassuredsurvival is locked down is because every day there are HUNDREDS of spam registrations. They have effectively shut me down. My forums are dying for lack of new members, but it is impossible for me to manually filter out all the spammers. One day one of them got through, and bombarded my forums with explicit hard-core pornography. I have tried installing many different anti-spam utilities. Some of them have worked for a few hours, then the spammers seem to (automatically?) figure out how to work around them and start bombarding me again. I recently upgraded the forums to SMF 2.0 so that I could use some anti-spam utilities that are only available for 2.0 or higher. I will sign up for an Akismet account as soon as I have some bandwidth to do so. I apologize for the lack of attention to your registration. It was not a snub; it was being overwhelmed by malicious attackers. Please forgive me.  Now that I know about it, I was able to find it among the backlog of many thousands, and approve of it. You can log in. You're good to go. It was lost as a needle in a haystack. If anyone else is having trouble, an email will do the trick. I will see what I can do to prevent this problem in the future. I appreciate your patronage. My IT department is myself. Big companies like Facebook have staff to fight against malicious attacks. The MAS site is purely a goodwill operation; the relatively recent addition of adsense ads does not even pay for the domain name registration much less web-hosting. I am going to try to improve it by integrating it with a blog that will create a stream of new and original reading material a few times a week, like I do with my commercial site(s). Facebook is interesting and it's free and appreciated, but I do not see much original non-commercial content on it. It also happens to be "filtered" (censored), and increasingly so. In order to have interesting original new content that is not full of commercial come-ons and deceptive PR, you need an army of small businessmen (women) and amateurs in the literal sense (people who do things they love) churning it out. Wouldn't it be a shame if the Internet finally got its "gatekeepers" keeping you from serendipitously finding out about all sorts of wonderful things, experiences, and opportunities? |
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Post by MikeH on Oct 31, 2011 5:47:17 GMT -5
someone else got caught in the spam trap too, but he didn't take it personally; he did just what the message told him to and contacted the administrator, who created an account for him Can you dig me out of the spam trap as well? Thanks. I woulda contacted the administrator but could find out how although I'm sure it was a my-wife-says-to-look-under-my-nose-when-you-can't-find-it thing. Regards, Mike |
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 31, 2011 11:53:58 GMT -5
Rob, I was shocked when I found out Yahoo had blocked e-mail that discussed the 99%.
I guess I didn't think big brother had a hold of the internet yet. I guess I forgot about big Corp.
Since having a blog for my CSA, I get dozens of spam letters. The filter on my e-mail is set to send just about everything to SPAM that's not from someone I know.
Spamers, and gmo manufacturers all go to the same hell.
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Post by atash on Oct 31, 2011 12:53:18 GMT -5
someone else got caught in the spam trap too, but he didn't take it personally; he did just what the message told him to and contacted the administrator, who created an account for him Can you dig me out of the spam trap as well? Thanks. I woulda contacted the administrator but could find out how although I'm sure it was a my-wife-says-to-look-under-my-nose-when-you-can't-find-it thing. Regards, Mike OK, it's a good thing we had this conversation, so that I can fix these. I couldn't find a MikeH. Send me a pm telling me what forum you tried to register on, and what name. If you can't remember the name or never got that far, I'll just create an account for you and send you the login info. Sorry about that. I appreciate your persistence and patience. We'll fix this. There are probably some topics that are taboo, and reputedly Google is getting increasing orders to disclose searches or ban certain sites, but the way the algorithms work, they can also censor stuff without any malice or intention; that's just what happens. Everything that is, implies what is not. If they're promo'ing "PR" (paid bogus news) that a PR agency was paid to promote, it means that an equivalent amount of REAL news got crowded out. When the internet debuted, it was "wild west" and you had a chance to stumble on real information that you would never have found out about otherwise. That's how I learned about "Austrian economic theory" which predicted the current bust cycle, and which is how I knew that the "economic recovery" was nothing but "PR" to keep the riff-raff busy hoping until they got used to "the new normal". Now that the internet is getting "tamed", the elites are regaining control over what we are allowed to find out about. Spammers, ironically and apparently unconsciously, are helping them, by creating an ever higher threshold for being able to maintain a functioning website, not to mention they're creating unjust hardship for the owners of websites.  |
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Post by spacecase0 on Oct 31, 2011 16:54:01 GMT -5
atash,
thank you for activating my account,
I have maintained a forum before, it is a constant battle to keep out spam posters,
sorry to here that is what you are dealing with,
yahoo and google are not to be trusted,
they do filter things,
just like the USGS is now deleting many earthquakes and they are downsizing the ones that they leave up after the fact.
the information war is upon us.
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