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Post by templeton on Nov 4, 2011 17:18:45 GMT -5
Anyone done any work on Rubus? I've got sylvanberries and a couple of varieties of raspberries flowering at the moment, and the weedy blackberries in the bush out the back are probably flowering as well. Might even try and get my hands on some native australian raspberries, should have good drought resistance...
Was wondering if they are hard to cross?
T
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Post by raymondo on Nov 5, 2011 3:44:05 GMT -5
I think Lieven David has developed some of his own rubus berries. Hopefully he'll see this and chime in.
I have a local raspberry, Rubus parvifolius, in a pot but it refuses to set fruit. I'm wondering whether they are self-fertile. This year I placed a European raspberry nearby to see what would happen. They flower at different times!!
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Post by oxbowfarm on Nov 5, 2011 5:14:08 GMT -5
I've always hoped to find Wineberries (Rubus phoenicolasius) in this area, no such luck so far. They are hands down the best berry I've ever tasted. It would be interesting to see if someone could cross them with other rubus to make something new. The main drawback of wineberries to my mind is they are sticky.
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Post by turtleheart on Nov 5, 2011 6:10:41 GMT -5
wineberries have a differing chromosomal number from raspberry, and will not cross.
they sprawl over the strip-mined slopes of pittburgh's scarred hillsides. i have never met a sticky wineberry. they are very common here. would anyone like seeds 2012?
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Post by oxbowfarm on Nov 6, 2011 3:21:16 GMT -5
Betcha they will. Most rubus are polyploids anyway, not saying its easy but i'm pretty sure it can be done. I'd love some seeds.
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Post by templeton on Nov 6, 2011 5:12:19 GMT -5
wineberries have a differing chromosomal number from raspberry, and will not cross. they sprawl over the strip-mined slopes of pittburgh's scarred hillsides. i have never met a sticky wineberry. they are very common here. would anyone like seeds 2012? Nah, I already share a name with the man who introduced blackberry into australia - now one of our twenty weeds of national significance. I don't want to share his doubtful legacy by introducing another one...  T |
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Post by templeton on Nov 6, 2011 5:15:51 GMT -5
I think Lieven David has developed some of his own rubus berries. Hopefully he'll see this and chime in. I have a local raspberry, Rubus parvifolius, in a pot but it refuses to set fruit. I'm wondering whether they are self-fertile. This year I placed a European raspberry nearby to see what would happen. They flower at different times!! only ever had partially complete drupes when I knew it from ranger days, Ray. But quite tenacious, and nowhere near the thorns of the blackberry sp.aggregate. T |
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Post by stevil on Nov 7, 2011 3:07:05 GMT -5
Same experience with my parvifolius - partially complete drupes at best...
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Post by plantsman2006 on Nov 7, 2011 21:18:06 GMT -5
In looking at the canes of some of the comercial red raspberries available on mailorder, I am convinced that there are phoenoclasius genes in these hybrids, the canse have the thin prickles and a few spines. Phoenoclasius has naturalized here in Illinois but only on the loess hills. I have tried to cultivate it with no luck, great flavor though if you beat the birds to it!
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Post by MikeH on Mar 5, 2012 5:35:51 GMT -5
wineberries have a differing chromosomal number from raspberry, and will not cross. they sprawl over the strip-mined slopes of pittburgh's scarred hillsides. i have never met a sticky wineberry. they are very common here. would anyone like seeds 2012? Yes, please. I'll pm you my address. Regards, Mike |
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