Fall peas verses fall beans

[spud]

I usually have a great spring crop of snap peas but no matter what I try, fall peas just don't cut it for me in my growing area(NW Ohio). This year I planted bush peas and bush beans the last week of July to see how they would compare. No contest, bush beans kicked some major a$$. Three good pickings to maybe a half picking of peas, and to tell the truth, I really didn't bother with the peas. The beans were so good and tasty and peas were so small I didn't bother with em. My take, beans really take off and are way ahead of the peas and by the time the peas take off, the days are getting to short to get them going. Hurray, the only fall peas I'll grow will be for cover cropping.

[steev]

I assume you get at least two months of heat after July, which peas really don't like. Don't know how long it stays cool before getting too cold, but you might try counting back from expected killing cold to see how late you could plant peas and hope to get a crop.

[12540dumont]

Spud, In Italy farmers put in beans twice, once in the spring and once in mid summer.

I'm fooling around with putting them in 3 times. Spring, mid summer and July.

Peas also work where I am if planted in August. August gives them through early November, and if the frosts aren't heavy, sometimes they jut keep going till Feb. By then, they usually commit suicide. Mildew, what a horrible way to die.

[spud]

It's in the 90's in july usually and we start getting cool nights mid august. I think our weather here isn't that productive for fall peas. I can't see them growing too much in july with all of that heat. I've tried different varieties with the same poor results. I think that they are more suited to a more temperate moist fall, like the pacific northwest.

[robertb]

Nov 10, 2011 22:44:23 GMT -5 12540dumont said:

Spud, In Italy farmers put in beans twice, once in the spring and once in mid summer.

Is that dwarf beans? If so, I could do the same here. Probably will next year. Start a lot under cover in late April or early May, plant them out late May or early June, depending on the season - June frosts were a menace this year - and start a second lot in the open ground in late June.

[ottawagardener]

I haven't quite got the hang of planting a fall pea crop: sporatic germination as I don't irrigate. That or the creatures get them. Anyhow, I think I plant too early. I"m going to try mid-August for pea shoots at the very least!

As for beans, I was thinking of doing two crops with dwarf/quick maturing beans or just finding a mix to flow through the season.

[stevil]

I've successfully grown Winterkefen peas sown in a cold greenhouse in autumn. They usually germinate in cold weather in midwinter and after germination they have survived temperatures down to -15C. These came via Danish Seed Savers from Switzerland (Arche Noah). However, they didn't make it through the last two very cold winters with temperatures under -20C. I will try again this year as I enjoy the spring pea shoots and early pea crop.

[gixxerific]

Let's just say my bean cop this year spring and fall were duds. I got one good picking.

Peas did great this spring I planted again tis summer and tehy tooka while to take off but are doing good here. We just had a freeze and the peas that are on there are trash. But there are more flowers so still hoping for a few more.

In conclusion at least for me the peas did better than the beans. Though the only bean pickings were from the fall plants.

[darwinslair]

I did an August planting of Earliana green beans, just to see how it would do, where I had harvested my garlic. they are listed as 55 DTM, but for me they produced beans in 30 days in an August planting. Made them a good following crop.

Tom

[12540dumont]

I finally harvested the Pink Tarajumara String Beans. This is a green bean that can be eaten dry as well. The beans inside are pink.

This bean was planted at the same time as the rest of my beans, but did not flower until the temperatures turned toward fall. I'm pretty sure it is daylight sensitive. This fellow had pretty much the same experience I did with this.

forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/okgard/msg1208293220646.html

Very productive, and if you live somewhere that you think this will grow, PM me and the seeds are yours. Definitely not a bean for anyone with a short growing season. Johnno, this might do well for you or other folks in the south.

[12540dumont]

This photo was taken October 4.

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[johno]

They look oddly familiar, though I'm quite sure I haven't grown them before. Attractive. If the production is there, I don't mind strings.