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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 4, 2012 14:34:00 GMT -5
Zolfino's were bush. (Short pole?)
In other words, they were knee high to a vertically challenged female.
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Post by steev on Sept 4, 2012 21:02:01 GMT -5
I greatly like cowpeas, too; they grow gangbusters even though I only water them once weekly (I think bi-weekly would be plenty; maybe only monthly), but they're going to force me to get a decent sheller, unless I want to go crank-crazy. Of course, they're easy enough to thresh dried, but I want shellies.
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Post by Drahkk on Sept 5, 2012 3:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 5, 2012 10:01:41 GMT -5
I've heard that the Taylor Pea Sheller works pretty well for shellies and dry. Just another tool on my list.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 5, 2012 22:24:15 GMT -5
So anyone one Cajanus - Pidgeon Pea?
Phaseolus angustissimus?
Phaseolus maculatus?
Need more info. Seed just arrived from the Desert Legume Program.
Thanks!
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Post by raymondo on Sept 6, 2012 2:21:12 GMT -5
My son grows cajanus, not for food but for mulch. It grows fast in his sub-tropical climate. I once collected seeds from his plants and made a variant of shepherds pie with them. I like them but find threshing them tedious. They also seemed to take forever to cook. The other two I don't know.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 16, 2012 13:43:01 GMT -5
This is Carol Deppe's Resilient Bean Breeder F3 X This is her wide cross between a Tepary & a Phaseolus (Don't ask, I have no idea). Anyway, I found this bean to be early and very productive. This is a bush bean. Raymundo, are you looking?Attachments:
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 16, 2012 16:24:02 GMT -5
Holly: Great looking beans. I have also started harvesting my dry bean pulse landrace:  I am calling this the "Early Bush" landrace. They are the first 5% of the plants in the patch to produce dried down seed. There are 3-4 species in the seed: Black-eyed peas, tepary, and common bean. Those large round black beans are a bit different in phenotype from the others perhaps they are a different species. I'll try to pay attention next time I harvest to save a sample of the plant/leaves. These were the very earliest to dry down. I expect the composition of the mix to change quite a bit and to add more species/cultivars as the season progresses. I'm separating them into a early season landrace and a late season landrace: Both "hot weather". I should have also made a "cold weather" landrace, but silly me, I thought that bean was a synonym for "extremely frost sensitive".  |
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Post by raymondo on Sept 16, 2012 17:33:17 GMT -5
Looks like a nice bean Holly. How do they cook up? I love dried beans, not only beautiful but delicious.
That looks like quite a mix Joseph.
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Post by blueadzuki on Sept 16, 2012 18:19:31 GMT -5
I like the little cream one with the bluish speckles, reminds me of a few of my cowpeas from this year.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 16, 2012 20:17:26 GMT -5
Raymundo, I'm going a set aside a few to cook this week. It always takes me 2 years to get enough to eat. The first year I barely have 10 beans to plant. Then I harvest a quart, but am reluctant to eat any until I have planted at least a pint and know that they are coming right along.
Joseph, those are beautiful.
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Post by steev on Sept 16, 2012 22:26:26 GMT -5
Blue, I think you're referring to the Blue-Speckled Tepary; they grow well in cowpea weather.
Holly, Raymundo's right; those are pretty beans; we await your verdict with bated breath.
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Post by castanea on Sept 16, 2012 23:34:49 GMT -5
This is Carol Deppe's Resilient Bean Breeder F3 X This is her wide cross between a Tepary & a Phaseolus (Don't ask, I have no idea). Anyway, I found this bean to be early and very productive. This is a bush bean. Raymundo, are you looking?I grew my Resilient Bean Breeder F3's too close to some cowpeas and Asian long beans (Vigna unguiculata) which overwhelmed the resilients. About half of my resilients died at less than 8 inches tall even before they were swarmed by the cowpeas. Love those cowpeas. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 16, 2012 23:39:33 GMT -5
After spending an hour searching and only finding results that are way too technical for me to understand... I'll ask if anyone can give me a short tutorial on how seed coat color works with beans? About 1 bean in 100 pods has been a different color than the rest of the beans in the pod, and I'm wondering if it could be from a cross this year, or if it's better to think of it as a segregating cross from previous years. Or are there other factors entirely that I am unaware of that affect bean color within a single pod?
Should I be saving the odd colored seeds as the basis of a new population with more genetic diversity (due to the ongoing segregation)? Should I be opening pods one at a time to look for the odd-balls?
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Post by raymondo on Sept 16, 2012 23:56:58 GMT -5
Raymundo, I'm going a set aside a few to cook this week. It always takes me 2 years to get enough to eat. The first year I barely have 10 beans to plant. Then I harvest a quart, but am reluctant to eat any until I have planted at least a pint and know that they are coming right along. Same here usually Holly. I get given a handful of beans then have to bulk them up to actually taste them. I enjoy the process though. It's fun to watch a new plant grow and see how it develops in my garden. Jospeh, I think seed coat is maternal tissue so differences would have to be from an earlier cross that is beginning to segregate. Reversals are reasonably common and are not genetically controlled, or don't appear to be. By reversal I mean a two-colour pattern suddenly being reversed - what was red is now tan and what was tan is now red, if that makes sense. There are myriad articles floating about on inheritance of patterns and colours but too many to make sense of in one sitting. There's also the Bean Gene web site that lists a host of genes. |
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