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Post by 12540dumont on Feb 21, 2013 12:37:19 GMT -5
Really really nice! Mine are still puny as well. But, they are in a pot.
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Post by richardw on Feb 21, 2013 13:16:02 GMT -5
Its a pity i couldn't send you some bulbils Ray,
Oh and also,all the flowers ended up hollow with no seed,didnt think they would produce anything because no insects were hanging about the flowers.
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Post by benboo on Mar 28, 2013 19:50:02 GMT -5
I attempted to germinate the 7 seeds that I found on the walking onions. 3 germinated! Hopefully something nice comes out of them.
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Post by richardw on May 24, 2013 4:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on May 24, 2013 9:37:37 GMT -5
Beenboo is the only one I know of that has successfully gotten tree onion seeds and germinated them. I tried, but didn't get seeds. Kelly Winterton has successfully raised potato onions from seeds by removing bulbils. I have documented all known successful attempts to get true garlic seeds on my True Garlic Seed web page. [Sorry if I missed anyone. Write me.] The same information is scattered over 150 posts on the True Garlic Seed thread on this forum. |
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Post by richardw on May 24, 2013 14:48:45 GMT -5
Thanks Joseph,i should had done a search first to see if it had been previously talked about here.
Ive only ever grown the softneck type garlic but was given some 'rounds' as well as cloves of some hard-necked a few months ago,so i'm diffidently go to start playing around with them to see if i can get seed,as well as having a go with the tree onions.........and gees here me doing the opposite with the California Red onion.
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Post by richardw on Oct 25, 2013 13:45:36 GMT -5
This summer i'm trying to get my line of tree onions to grow seed from the small amount of flowers that this line tends to grow,ive built a netting frame over the top so as to hold up the stems up right so they dont lay on the ground that they would normally ,this is to make it easier to work on while removing the topset bulbils,the plan is to remove the bulbils as soon as i can so that the plant can put more energy into its flower production and then hopefully growing seed.  |
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Post by billw on Oct 25, 2013 14:38:05 GMT -5
I don't think he had to remove bulbils - it is rare for potato onions to make them. The hard part is getting a flower stalk. If you get one, then the rest of the process is just like other onions. |
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Post by templeton on Oct 27, 2013 19:18:00 GMT -5
I got about a dozen seeds after de-bulbil-ing topset onions last summer, only one seed germinated, and is growing into - a normal topset onion, as far as I can tell...
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Post by templeton on Nov 5, 2013 19:52:49 GMT -5
Went out to my second garden and found the topsets topsetting. A couple of plants had different flowering stalks - double storey topsets (topsets on the topsets) and on an adjacent stalk from the same plant, a big flowering head, seemingly without any bulbils - didn't look like there was any pollen either, but that might just be my eyes. link  |
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Post by richardw on Nov 8, 2013 13:02:57 GMT -5
Interesting the difference between yours and mine,mine have a lot of red colour in the bulbils and all my clumps send up double storey topsets,its only the second story heads that have flowers too,first story is 100% bulbils.
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Post by templeton on Nov 8, 2013 15:57:51 GMT -5
Looking forward to see what my one seedling grown plant turns into - the head is still just unfolding
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Post by zeedman on Nov 9, 2013 4:44:28 GMT -5
Went out to my second garden and found the topsets topsetting. A couple of plants had different flowering stalks - double storey topsets (topsets on the topsets) and on an adjacent stalk from the same plant, a big flowering head, seemingly without any bulbils - didn't look like there was any pollen either, but that might just be my eyes. Several years back, I had a flower stalk appear in the middle of one of my walking onion clumps. It turned out to be a bulbing multiplier onion, that produced clusters of 2.5-4 cm bulbs when Fall planted; it must have volunteered from a fallen seed. The bulbs had reddish skin, and the same pink flesh as the bulbs of the walking onions; but in the Spring, they produced flower stalks, not bulbils. A couple years before, I had temporarily planted some yellow-skinned multipliers nearby... they might have pollinated the flowers of the Catawissa walking onions. Considering that the volunteer shared the short stature of the yellow multiplier, a cross between the two seems to be the most likely explanation. I have multiplied the bulbs many times over, but always clipped off the flower heads as soon as they appeared. They are presently in 1/2 of a wide row, with the yellow-skinned onions making up the other half. Given Kelly Winterton's results in breeding multiplier onions from seed, I will let some of the flower stalks remain, to see if they set seed. If this really is a multiplier/walking onion cross, the F2's could be interesting. I hope the flowers are fertile. In 2011, I found a fertile seed pod on one of the Catawissa topsets, and picked it when it dried. Planted it indoors in 2012, the seed sprouted, and was healthy. I moved it outside when the weather warmed - and a ground squirrel dug it up & killed it. An opportunity lost... but it seems that this patch of Catawissa develops seed on occasion, so I will be watching it closely. |
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Post by ilex on Nov 9, 2013 16:36:21 GMT -5
I don't think he had to remove bulbils - it is rare for potato onions to make them. The hard part is getting a flower stalk. If you get one, then the rest of the process is just like other onions. Potato onions don't (usually) make bulbils, they make normal flowers like regular onions. The difficult part is getting them to flower. I suspect some are somewhat self sterile. I had some flower in isolation and got virtually no seeds. This year I tried to cross them and got fairly good seed count. |
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Post by zeedman on Nov 9, 2013 17:45:52 GMT -5
Ilex, what did you cross them with? I'm very interested in hearing the technique(s) used to make them flower. The two multipliers I grow are winter hardy, so I generally plant them in the Fall with my garlic. They also have a long storage life if brought indoors, and can be Spring planted (I did that this year) but only the Fall-planted bulbs will flower. Potato onions are more tender, when I tried to Fall plant them in my climate, nearly all died. I would like to cross my multipliers with potato onions, with the goal of creating a larger, more winter-hardy potato onion... but how can I induce the Spring-planted potato onions to flower? Would cold treatment of the bulbs prior to planting trigger flowering?
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