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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 11, 2012 11:23:03 GMT -5
I can't find answers on the good 'ol internet but a patch of the Music garlic that I pulled had a good deal of the outer skins off and some of the cloves jutting out. There was even a bit of feeding damage on the outer bulbs. I thought Japanese Beetle Grubs because they are a problem back there and it doesn't appear to be coming down from the stem. I also have leek moth in the garden but the damage doesn't seem the same as pictures of bulb damage.
Sound similar to anything you've seen? P.S. Pictures on Facebook.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jul 11, 2012 23:43:55 GMT -5
If I wait too long to harvest, the outer skins disintegrate, leaving bare cloves attached to the root ball.
Edit after I figured out how to access the photo... Looks like weeding damage to me.
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 13, 2012 11:36:46 GMT -5
Here are some pictures. Something is definitely nibbling on them but what? Typical damage below:  |
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 14, 2012 7:41:01 GMT -5
No one? My major concern is nematodes but the damage doesn't seem at all consistent with descriptions - in other words, the basal plate is firmly attached etc... but it does seem like something feeding on them. I haven't seen any maggots and it is not thrip damage for sure. What the heck is it? I've considered grubs as I have SIGNIFICANT grub activity in the area but ironically garlic is supposed to repel them? The feeding damage looks larger than a nematode anyhow though I suppose there could be a concurrent infection, like I said, the garlic didn't have any other signs consistent with this infection.
So my question is that I am not using anything from this patch as planting stock but can I use my other other patch in a different area of the same garden as planting stock? Help please.
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Post by ferdzy on Jul 14, 2012 9:24:36 GMT -5
I really don't know but I would guess it's grubs. It looks like other grub damage I've seen. Also, SUPPOSED to repel and DOES repel are two different things in my experience.
If your other garlic from other areas looks good, I would use it. Also, if you missed breaking off any bulbils you might want to start some garlic from those. That does help clean it up, even if it does take about 3 years to reach a decent size.
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Post by edwin on Jul 14, 2012 10:24:39 GMT -5
Now that you are mentioning it, it does look like some of the grub damage we have seen on potatoes.
I took a look around the internet and the only thing that seemed to make some sense that I found was bloat nematode - though it did not really look the same?
We rotate almost everything on a 4 year cycle. I am also planning to refresh one of our garlic varieties from bulbils every 3 years.
If it is grub damage then I would think that the rest of it could be used as seed. I also remember something about being able to disinfect garlic by washing it in hot water...
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 14, 2012 13:45:44 GMT -5
edwin: That's the nematode that I was referring to only the damage doesn't match up with the descriptions I've seen on it so I'm hoping that it's not bloat nematode though refreshing using bulbils is a good idea. I think I'll replant the other, unaffected patch and then let them scape next year. I'll plant it far away, but not too far off so that if it is nematodes then only one part of the acreage will be affected.
I've heard that about hot water too. Sounds dicey but worth trying.
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Post by edwin on Jul 14, 2012 14:15:13 GMT -5
We found some garlic in a ditch a few years back. At one time a house had been there, but all that was left was a buried foundation.
We have grown out the garlic from bulbils from it into cloves then small heads of garlic.
Ferdzy suggested that perhaps we could send you a couple of heads if it would help out. We think that it isn't music.
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 14, 2012 19:34:02 GMT -5
That's awfully nice of you  |
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