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Post by steev on May 31, 2015 23:14:37 GMT -5
I like to keep the psychoactive portions in my right hand, burning as recommended.
While I recognize the value of twine, I'm thinking of a finer-fibered product, more like mental floss.
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Post by templeton on Jun 1, 2015 1:25:41 GMT -5
Not sure that SH contributions would make it to you, Steev, unless of course it was forwarded via Mexico, in which case by all accounts it will just mooch across the border...We are aiming for a great rope-making fiber plant for farm use, aren't we? T I'm sure he's only after the fibers for rope making. All the psychoactive portions should be kept out of the wrong hands. I reccomend burning. I'm pretty sure you can leach out all those undesirable phytochemicals by steeping in ethanol, as well. Then you have the fiber left, and only need to dispose of the leachate. That ethanol would vaporize a treat... |
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Post by reed on Jun 1, 2015 8:51:04 GMT -5
I guess if there is no accepted "official" definition then it is just subject to everyone's own interpretation. I just think its fun to apply the different definitions to what I want to do. Both Dr. Kaupler's and rowan 's explanations make sense to me even though they are not exactly the same. It does occur to me logically that making a "landrace" may be beyond the ability of a single person in a lifetime, maybe not. My asters I think probably would qualify under about any definition but mostly because I collected not made them, I found them along the roads in southern Indiana and Northern Kentucky. They have lots of natural variation and I like the ones with larger and fewer petals, over the years I have rouged out the ones that have more smaller petals so guess I have my own kind now. I have a giant Virginia Bluebell patch but it all came from the same half dozen plants dug up from a single location. Maybe they qualify too or maybe not because they all came from just that one spot. I don't know that there are any landrace vegetables around here, at least that I know of. Kentucky Wonder pole beans are popular here especially with the old timers but I think at least in recent decades people just bought new seeds each year. I never heard the term landrace until last year when I stumbled on Joseph Lofthouse 's website, which led me here. I had decided I wanted to save my own seeds and I wanted locally adapted things. I read Susanne Ashworths's book which I found somewhat discouraging. It made me think I might not be able to do what I wanted because of genetic depression and isolation requirements. I was also largely still stuck in the “it’s gotta be pure sillyness”. As I learned more it occurred to me, why can’t you plant seeds from a hybrid? Isn’t hybrid just the F1 of a cross? Why can’t you get around genetic depression by planting different kinds of the same thing? It also occurred to me that the whole idea of what I had learned about as “hybrid vigor” in a sense might be a myth. If all you want is something to eat that you can keep growing indefinitely in small patches then hybrid vigor is just the absence of genetic depression. The more kinds the better… all hybrid vigor all the time, that’s what I’m starting to think. So what if it isn’t exactly the same every year? Yum, is that 2012 vintage tomato juice? That was a good year wasn’t it? Yea, those tomatoes were from a landrace, or not, I can't tell for sure. |
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Post by Al on Jun 1, 2015 17:01:21 GMT -5
Re: AUTOCHTHON, I always have to check the spelling & am not very sure how to pronounce it, even with a relatively clear head. Wouldn't like to say it quickly with psychoactive compound destruction in progress in the vicinity.
Hemp rope making was once on a par with modern high grade uranium production as an industry of strategic importance when Britannia ruled the waves. Huge long rope making sheds such as at The Royal Naval dockyard at Chatham in Kent were crucial to British sea power in the days of sail. The clever twisting device can still be seen operating & visitors can make a short length of rope as a souvenir. So hemp growing must have been widespread & I think I read that hemp can still be found growing wild in the hedgerows around former hemp fields. Possible landrace for cannabis enthusiasts?
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Post by steev on Jun 1, 2015 18:27:29 GMT -5
Although long-since outlawed in the USA, industrial hemp is feral, commonly known as "ditchweed"; not a high in a carload; I guess it makes sense to somebody to bind hay with plastic, rather than hemp twine, so let's keep it banned; after all, we can produce all the plastic we want from petroleum; we don't have to worry about somebody hiding "boo" in a field of hemp, for "not nice" uses.
Re: pronunciation of "AUTOCHTHON", it helps to be fluent in one of the more phlegm-infused languages.
When I'm situated such that I can have cats again, "Phlegm", "Mucus", "Ebola", and "Mers" are the names to which I'm drawn; the cats won't care, so long as I don't call them "late for dinner".
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