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Post by templeton on Dec 21, 2012 21:55:38 GMT -5
note: Delta Louisa is a dwarf green snow - no yellow pods in the mix anywhere.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Dec 21, 2012 22:01:39 GMT -5
And the sign of the apocalypse shall be thus,wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the kid, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and the peas shall become purple within their cods.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 21, 2012 22:37:26 GMT -5
So I went and found my pea seeds from last year and examined them under high power magnification.
The Biskopens peas are lumpy, but they are not wrinkled. The purple peas in the [yellow snow X purple snap] cross are wrinkled and/or dented, and some of the peas are only partially purple, a purple blush on some parts of the seed but not other parts. It's different than speckles, because the speckles are distinct, but this purple color is a blush. If this was corn, I would attribute it to "sap color". There were no partially colored seeds in the Biskopens.
There were also some of the purple seeds in my snap/snow landrace. They were likewise grown in the next row over from Biskopens. These were also wrinkled, unlike the Biskopens, some dramatically wrinkled. Some blushing and some wholly colored.
In both populations, the percent purple seeds was around 2%.
Most of my snap/snow peas came out of Alan Kapuler breeding projects so they are likely to be genetically diverse.
I found one yellow podded shelling pea in my shelling pea landrace this summer, so some small amount of cross pollination is likely happening. I'm expecting purple flowers to start showing up in my shelling peas one of these days.
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Post by galina on Jan 25, 2013 10:09:33 GMT -5
Solid Purple/brown seeds are a normal variation of Golden Sweet. I have done some breeding with Golden Sweet as one parent and this trait is also part of my Court Estate Gold pea.
I had a funny one this year. One pod of Salmon Flowered, a crown pea, produced a single pod with:
1 purple pea
1 sand coloured pea (this is the normal colour for the cultivar)
and 3 part purple, part sand coloured peas.
Will definitely grow them out, but somehow expect that they will all return to sand coloured. Still - we'll see ....
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Post by galina on Jan 25, 2013 11:32:57 GMT -5
Forgot to attach a picture of the seeds in this one pod. Attachments:
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Post by circumspice on Jan 29, 2013 20:44:35 GMT -5
Forgot to attach a picture of the seeds in this one pod. Wow. That half purple, half sand colored pea reminds me of an episode from the old Star Trek series... ;D |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 29, 2013 23:33:56 GMT -5
Solid Purple/brown seeds are a normal variation of Golden Sweet. I have done some breeding with Golden Sweet as one parent and this trait is also part of my Court Estate Gold pea. I had a funny one this year. One pod of Salmon Flowered, a crown pea, produced a single pod with: 1 purple pea 1 sand coloured pea (this is the normal colour for the cultivar) and 3 part purple, part sand coloured peas. Will definitely grow them out, but somehow expect that they will all return to sand coloured. Still - we'll see .... Galina, thats great to hear your are growing the salmon flowered pea. I may try to pursuade you to share some seed with me in the future. Robertb sent me a few seeds, but with the heat last spring/summer i didnt see any salmon flowers, and i barely got to save any seed. I think i was able to save a few seeds, but it's a variety im highly interested in. |
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Post by robertb on Jan 30, 2013 12:42:04 GMT -5
I hope what you have grows! I had a terrible year last year as well; everything was so waterlogged that even peas and broad beans didn't grow.
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Post by galina on Jan 31, 2013 12:21:20 GMT -5
Keen and Robert you are both welcome. Had plenty of seeds. Originally from you Robert  via the seedcircle. Please pm addresses. |
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Post by robertb on Feb 1, 2013 12:34:31 GMT -5
I'm OK, thanks. I have plenty spare, though I'm sure you have other varieties I'd like! If the weather is a bit less vile this year, I might even biuild up my stocks a bit.
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Post by galina on Feb 23, 2013 6:45:10 GMT -5
[quote author=keen101 board=beans thread=7001 post=84283 Galina, thats great to hear your are growing the salmon flowered pea. I may try to pursuade you to share some seed with me in the future. Robertb sent me a few seeds, but with the heat last spring/summer i didnt see any salmon flowers, and i barely got to save any seed. I think i was able to save a few seeds, but it's a variety im highly interested in.[/quote] As requested a photo of Salmon Flowered. Showing a crown growing up into the lower branches of a pear tree. Not the best of them by a long stretch, just the one that flowered first. I think you can see the thick, fasciated, stem quite well. The flower colour is lovely. This is a front garden pea, it is so pretty. Attachments:
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Post by davida on Feb 23, 2013 11:37:05 GMT -5
As requested a photo of Salmon Flowered. Showing a crown growing up into the lower branches of a pear tree. Beautiful. I was just considering this morning planting pole beans to climb into my fruit trees. Do you have good success growing peas and pole beans in your orchard? Would you recommend this method? |
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Post by galina on Feb 25, 2013 6:16:09 GMT -5
As requested a photo of Salmon Flowered. Showing a crown growing up into the lower branches of a pear tree. Beautiful. I was just considering this morning planting pole beans to climb into my fruit trees. Do you have good success growing peas and pole beans in your orchard? Would you recommend this method? No, I would not do this by design. These peas were growing well away from the stem of the pear, and were only ok because we had such an unusually wet year. Normally trees win every time and will steal all the moisture leaving none for the other plants. Trees in the veg patch are a problem. However when it happens, it looks pretty. I had a ph coccineus that outgrew its pole, somehow jumped two feet and attached itself to our apple tree and grew and grew. Very pretty, totally impractical for harvesting. Don't do it. The only reported successes are not too vigorous beans up stalks of corn. |
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Post by hortusbrambonii on Jul 5, 2013 4:06:07 GMT -5
The purple seeds just give typical Golden Sweet plants with yellow pods, I'll have to waait if the seeds in these pods will be different but I suppose it's not a trait that gets genetically inherited after all...
No problem at all with regular golden sweets though. They taste great, loook great and give a good crop, and xcept for getting stringy the pods remain tasty when they are harvested too late at a stage when there's already small peas inside. (I only am not used to tall pea plants, my 'norli' snowpeas I used to grow are more a dwarf type...)
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Post by hortusbrambonii on Aug 18, 2013 16:06:19 GMT -5
Seeds are not purple at all...
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via the seedcircle.
