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Post by richardw on Jan 26, 2013 23:49:01 GMT -5
On the left are bulbs bought from the Warehouse,on the right are my seedling Gladiolus grown by myself,we had 120km winds two weeks ago which the seedlings ones didn't get blown over at all, the stems are no different in thickness and all were planted in the ground at the same depth,the only thing i can think of is its virus,anyone have any thoughts as to why the difference  My Gladiolus album s416.photobucket.com/albums/pp247/Medburygardens/Gladys/?albumview=slideshow |
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Post by steev on Jan 26, 2013 23:58:59 GMT -5
Difference of bulb size, leading to different root mass?
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Post by richardw on Jan 27, 2013 3:54:48 GMT -5
No bulbs pretty much the same size
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 27, 2013 9:07:28 GMT -5
I wonder if your commercial bulbs were grown with a lot of fertilizer and water? I find my own veggies, which don't get huge amounts of either, tend to be more... sturdy. Denser. Sometimes more fibrous. Lots of water and fertilizer may make things grow faster, leading to looser, weaker cell walls. Maybe?
Yours are also probably very adapted to your soil, having never grown anywhere else. They are gorgeous too, by the way!
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Post by richardw on Jan 27, 2013 12:11:39 GMT -5
I wonder if your commercial bulbs were grown with a lot of fertilizer and water? I find my own veggies, which don't get huge amounts of either, tend to be more... sturdy. Denser. Sometimes more fibrous. Lots of water and fertilizer may make things grow faster, leading to looser, weaker cell walls. Maybe? Its been about 5-7 years ago that i bought the original bulbs,but i didnt plant them straight away in the flower garden,instead i planted them in some old disused baths with the idea of building up numbers,a year later there was 2X the number of good sized bulbs that were then planted in the flower garden,the 100's of baby bulbs left were given another year before i did the same again,so some of those weaker ones were still grown here,so thats why i'm still thinking its virus thats made the stems weak Yours are also probably very adapted to your soil, having never grown anywhere else. yep that would help They are gorgeous too, by the way! Thanks,i'll be taking seed again from that block in the photo and sow more again this autumn in baths,they then pop in spring and will flower that summer. This is the part i get a kick out of,and thats seeing what colour combinations turn up. |
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 27, 2013 12:49:12 GMT -5
Richard, here there would have never been time for them to blow over, the gophers would have already eaten them all. The love Glads!  |
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Post by richardw on Jan 27, 2013 12:55:23 GMT -5
oh the little buggers Holly  |
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 27, 2013 13:21:15 GMT -5
Virus does seem very possible - the seed grown ones may well not have any.
And gophers are evil. Eeeeeevil! Also chipmunks. And squirrels. And rats. And rabbits. And DEER! Don't get me started.
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Post by richardw on Jan 28, 2013 15:23:42 GMT -5
Sounds like you have your hands full with all sorts of animals ferdzy
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 28, 2013 16:37:07 GMT -5
Richard, I actually have neither gophers nor chipmunks, which I'm convinced are the most eeeevil pair of them all. I've heard about them though. So it could be worse. And the deer fence does seem to be working....*knock* *knock*
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 28, 2013 19:57:01 GMT -5
I insisted on deer fencing when moving here. How was the attachment of the stem to the bulb? Oh what's that called again, the bulb plate? I wonder if it could be some sort of rot on the commercial one's bulb plates??
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Post by steev on Jan 28, 2013 23:51:45 GMT -5
Ferdzy: I could send some gophers, if you feel deprived.
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 29, 2013 21:43:47 GMT -5
Steev; I can't say that I feel deprived. But thank you for your kind offer. However, I suspect that the postage would be prohibitive, and that if I really want gophers, I can find them locally for much less, and they will be locally adapted to boot. No really, you keep 'em. Thanks ever so.
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Post by adamus on Feb 4, 2013 15:21:05 GMT -5
I grow Glads here too. We had a few windy days, quite blustery. The wind didn't blow all in one direction. Gusty I 'spose it was called. It hit one patch, and they keeled over, but all the others didn't.
Could it be that you just got a gust of wind in that area, and the others didn't.?
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Post by richardw on Feb 5, 2013 12:59:41 GMT -5
Yes its the wind did knocked down the bought Glads,but only the bought Glads,this photo is another mixed area  (badly in need of a weed)of my own seedlings and brought bulbs,front right bought Glads and the seedling left and along the back. Simply the bought Glads have softer more flexible stems where the seedlings have far stronger and ridged stems that snaped off instead off bending like the others,this has nothing to do with wind hitting one spot and not another,the wind blew for 24+hours across all the Glady garden which the seedlings handled and that the bought ones didnt.  |
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(badly in need of a weed)of my own seedlings and brought bulbs,front right bought Glads and the seedling left and along the back.