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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 16, 2013 7:20:23 GMT -5
My cabbage breeding is mostly about winter hardiness because those that survive the winter (there aren't too many) are the only ones that will become parents of the next generation and my die off is near total. This year was very cold with heavy snow. They might have balanced each other off. I had minimal survival of kale and cabbage. Usually the russian kales do pretty well but only a few of the seedlings survived. Heads do not survive here but small plants - intentional crowding -with sturdy stems might as occasionally do stems of mature cabbages which resprout. What I'm hoping for then is that they go to flower. Sometimes they'll head again. Nice for dinner maybe but not really for my purposes. Occasionally I'll get below ground survival, probably from a leaf node near soil level: Alive  You guessed it  |
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 16, 2013 11:15:35 GMT -5
You best call Miracle Max on that one. I too had a lousy season for cabbage and kale. Both more or less failed to thrive. We had virtually no rain, so what I did get was very strong. We had high bug pressure, indefatigable gophers, and unhealthy temperatures for good cabbage and kale. Leo on the other hand was growing tree cabbage. The San Michele you sent me 2 years ago, had set heads, bloomed from the side shoots, overwintered, made mini heads and bloomed again. Alas, I had to pull them, as I didn't want them to cross with the broccoli. By that time they were 4 feet tall. The woman who comes to weed one day asked me....okay, what kind of vegetable is this? I told her it was Ottawa Perennial Cabbage. I'm sorry I didn't get a close up of it. Attachments:
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Post by davida on Apr 16, 2013 11:27:15 GMT -5
I too had a lousy season for cabbage and kale. Both more or less failed to thrive. We had virtually no rain, so what I did get was very strong. We had high bug pressure, indefatigable gophers, and unhealthy temperatures for good cabbage and kale. Oh, how I feel your pain and you are in the fruit and vegetable basket of the USA. So sorry.  |
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Post by robertb on Apr 16, 2013 12:37:56 GMT -5
If that's a perennial cabbage I'd be very interested in seeds. I've got a couple of perennial brassicas and I'm looking for more.
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 16, 2013 20:59:00 GMT -5
Do you mean straight up San Michele or the cross. I did notice that it tends to overwinter.  Yeah, maybe next year will be better for overwintering but the flowers from the select few survivors I hope are extra hardy. |
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Post by raymondo on Apr 17, 2013 0:05:49 GMT -5
Are the plastic pots used as collars?
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 17, 2013 0:21:50 GMT -5
Both! One in one patch and one in the other!
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Post by petitvilaincanard on Apr 18, 2013 15:22:49 GMT -5
I have some 'fodder cabbage' the reddish one I can look up the name.The green opne I don't know its name.No trouble to pass the winter(ok,with only two nights of -7C it's not Canada over here.) They are about 1.80m = 6' high,mut maybe the flowers stretch out more. You just harvest leaves,nice stuff for rabbits,but they're fine in soup too.You end up with kind of tree truncs,up to 5 cm thick.I project to bury them Sepp Holzer style.   |
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Post by raymondo on Apr 18, 2013 16:19:28 GMT -5
How old are those cabbages petitvilaincanard?
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Post by ottawagardener on Apr 18, 2013 17:02:06 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by petitvilaincanard on Apr 20, 2013 4:50:15 GMT -5
How old are those cabbages petitvilaincanard? Hi raymondo, The plants are exactly about one year old. |
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Post by bunkie on Apr 20, 2013 9:47:20 GMT -5
Beautiful! petitvilaincanard what are the varieties/names?
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Post by petitvilaincanard on Apr 21, 2013 3:58:10 GMT -5
Beautiful! petitvilaincanard wht are the varieties/names? The first green one I got the plants from a neighbour;I have to ask.I doubt if he knows.It's just chou fourager (fodder cabbage) The second red one I got it as 'cavalier rouge' |
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