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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 13, 2013 21:14:06 GMT -5
Anyone have a garlic that started producing large top sets? I mean really large like so called walking onion?
I have a clump.
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 13, 2013 21:21:41 GMT -5
  Happy to hear that I have gone nuts and am looking at something else. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jul 13, 2013 21:31:38 GMT -5
Anyone have a garlic that started producing large top sets? I mean really large like so called walking onion? I have a clump. My soft-necked garlic this year produced about 8 plants like that out of 1000 that were planted. Looked near identical to ottawagardener's photos. I am still digging them so I may find a few more. I am intending to replant the topsets to see if it is a trait that can be selected-for. My creoles that were soft-necked last year were semi-bolting this year. A few of them produced topset bulbils (with lots of tiny bulbils, not a few large ones). I saw a crop of garlic at the grocery store a few weeks ago in which every soft-necked bulb had a topset with large bulbils about an inch above the main bulb. |
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 13, 2013 21:33:57 GMT -5
Perhaps it's German Red garlic? Seems that some have large bulbils. This plant has been here for a while as it is a clump with many scapes. I believe it is part of my first planting from when we first moved here so this would be it's third year.
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Post by Drahkk on Jul 13, 2013 21:54:52 GMT -5
That looks like what Schoharie County "Sloughter" did for me.  Russian Red made some large topsets as well, but none as big as Sloughter. Which reminds me: I've only ever grown softnecks before; how does one go about replanting the topsets? Do they need to cure a while, or should I get them back in the ground immediately? Sorry to sidetrack this thread, but they're starting to dry and I don't want to waste them all due to my own inexperience... MB |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jul 13, 2013 22:12:52 GMT -5
how does one go about replanting the topsets? Do they need to cure a while, or should I get them back in the ground immediately? Sorry to sidetrack this thread, but they're starting to dry and I don't want to waste them all due to my own inexperience... I still have bulbils sitting in the seed room that were harvested in the summer of 2012. Many of them seem perfectly healthy still. |
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Post by paquebot on Jul 13, 2013 22:44:50 GMT -5
Many of the rocambole types produce very large bulbils. Some are bigger than marbles. Some of the largest are Temptress, Kuty, Bogatyr, German Red, Khabar, Korean Mountain, Hnat, Bavarian, Yugoslavian, Colorado Purple, Merrifield, Pyong Yang, Thermadrone, Chrysalis Purple, Bavarian Purple, Brown Saxon, and many others of that type including my own. When softneck types produce bulbils, they are also often quite large and I have seen them like those pictured by the OP.
Martin
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Post by ottawagardener on Jul 14, 2013 7:49:02 GMT -5
Pretty sure I saw some green on a few of these so theoretically they could be planted soon. I don't typically plant top sets though this year I am propagating some other garlic that way so have been meaning to look that up. They do store for a while.
Thanks for the reply Martin. It was from a mixed varietal batch so I bet it has something that produces large sets in there. Interesting at any rate!
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Post by paquebot on Jul 14, 2013 21:33:32 GMT -5
You are correct in that they may be planted back soon but I'd let them dry a bit first. If you take that as meaning that they can be picked now, that is correct. They may sit there for half the summer and do nothing but then suddenly sprout when cooler weather arrives. Also, you could keep them for planting in fall or wait until spring. During all that time, the little green sprout will not get any bigger. I still have a few bulbils left from an offer last fall and each has a green tip. They are as alive as they were a year ago last week when they were picked. In that aspect, they are about as close as one can get for a seed without being a seed.
Martin
Martin
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Post by stevil on Jul 19, 2013 2:50:41 GMT -5
Here's a few of mine taken a few years ago to show the diversity in topsets: (Starting top left and left to right) Sprint, Alexandra (Finnish Heirloom), Elephant Garlic (bottom sets), (received as) Allium longicuspis, Cledor, Printanor and Hammer My favourite for winter sprouting is Alexandra as there are many medium sized bulbils giving good sprouts....luckily also the best variety here for garlic... Attachments:
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Post by nathanp on Jul 19, 2013 20:43:37 GMT -5
All of my Russian Red that I did not cut scapes off is doing this. As Paquebot said earlier, most of the Rocambole types seems to do this. My Philips garlic, however, is not doing this.
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Post by kazedwards on Oct 11, 2014 1:37:16 GMT -5
I thought soft neck garlic did not create a scape?
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Post by richardw on Oct 13, 2014 12:49:11 GMT -5
I thought soft neck garlic did not create a scape? Under certain growing conditions they can but none have ever produced a scape for me though. |
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Post by kazedwards on Oct 13, 2014 12:51:17 GMT -5
Interesting
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Post by kazedwards on Oct 13, 2014 12:52:19 GMT -5
But do they produce bulbils with out a scape? If so then how?
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