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Post by raymondo on Dec 4, 2013 19:04:42 GMT -5
Beans that have managed to emerge so far:
Banjo - Australian bush snap bean
Coco Noir - bush dry bean
Dragon Tongue - my favourite bush snap
Eight Treasure Striped Shellie - a bean I found in a Chinese porridge mix called, wait for it, Eight Treasure Porridge
Fagiolina del Trasimeno - plenty about this in this section of Homegrown
Finaud - a bush filet, I think of Dutch origin
Jacob's Cattle Gasless - gasless? really?
Kitchen King - local heirloom climbing snap
Mojave (aka Molasses Face) - pretty bush dry bean
Oxinel - a French bush filet type
Rattlesnake - my current favourite climbing snap
Red Swan - put my seeds away somewhere safe and can't find them though did manage to find two from the original lot
Snap Bean - bush snap, imaginative name eh?
Tender Delight - bush snap
Edit Dec 28:
Malayan Snake - a climbing snake (yardlong) bean
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Post by galina on Dec 5, 2013 2:52:05 GMT -5
So envious. It is all starting again for you. We have to wait for another 5 or 6 months here. Hope you can find the Red Swans in time. A nice selection of beans types.
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Post by richardw on Dec 5, 2013 3:35:58 GMT -5
Thats a good range there Ray,first time in years i have no beans at all planted
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Post by 12540dumont on Dec 5, 2013 13:04:32 GMT -5
No beans? No Beans? Heresy!
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Post by richardw on Dec 5, 2013 13:34:29 GMT -5
No beans? No Beans? Heresy! yep |
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Post by DarJones on Dec 8, 2013 1:50:30 GMT -5
Gasless beans are getting a bit more attention now. Gas is caused by oligosaccharides that we do not produce enzymes to digest. If you breed a bean with less of the oligosaccharides, gas becomes less of a problem. The actual formation of gas is from bacteria in our gut that produce enzymes that are effective, but in the process generate methane.
One general rule of thumb is that flat beans are less likely to cause gas. Dolloff's pole bean and the original 1500 year old cave bean are examples. Jacob's Cattle has long been described as producing less gas than most dry beans. It would be interesting to see if an actual gas free bean could be bred. There would be problems because the oligosaccharides store energy for the bean to use when it germinates. Reducing the amount in the bean would limit germination and growth energy unless it could be stored in an alternate form such as oil.
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Post by templeton on Dec 9, 2013 16:09:39 GMT -5
I only grow for green snaps.
I've tried bush beans for the first time this year - in foam boxes in the green house - Red Swan (a few isolated plants for seed as well Ray), Idyllwild, Purple queen. The Idyllwild was my favourite, but has developed a disease with fine spots on the leaves. These are finishing up now.
I'm also growing a few other pole bean Raymondo offerings - Kitchen King and Fortex - thanks Ray. Both these just flowering.
Might need to get in a second crop of climbers, but pressed for room.
And how I would like gasless beans - love eating them, but can't stay in the same room as myself afterward.
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Post by templeton on Dec 9, 2013 16:10:53 GMT -5
A pic of my spotty bean leaves - any suggestions as to cause?  |
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Post by blackox on Dec 9, 2013 20:36:33 GMT -5
Banjo,from the sound of the name, I like it already! I have never heard of Jacob's Cattle Gasless but grow plain Jacob's Cattle and will try Jacob's Cattle Gold next year. I have grown Dragon Tongue for a few years and it is definitely my number one snap bean. I have also never heard of Bush Snap (refering to variety), would like to know who came up with that one. Happy planting and a good harvest!
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Post by raymondo on Feb 13, 2014 22:44:00 GMT -5
An update:
Banjo - Became fibrous too quickly. Won't be back.
Coco Noir - Grown for a seed increase.
Dragon Tongue - Grown for a seed increase, also ate a few. Yum.
Eight Treasure Striped Shellie - beans only just getting to shelling stage but I planted them in the wrong place and I can't get at them easily. I've decided just to let them go for a seed increase.
Fagiolina del Trasimeno - Fiddly to harvest as the pods ripen at different times and some shatter. What a pain! Very productive but doubt I'll grow them again. Would be good breeding material for this climate though. It's already producing dry beans.
Finaud - Just coming into flower.
Jacob's Cattle Gasless - A productive bean. I grew this for a seed increase and haven't been disappointed.
Kitchen King - Disappointingly fibrous quite quickly. There are many better climbers to grow.
Mojave (aka Molasses Face) - For a seed increase. Doing well. Still a way off till dry seed stage.
Oxinel - Grown just for a seed increase.
Rattlesnake - Producing well. What a treat!
Red Swan - Found my other seeds last weekend. Too late to plant of course so now I'll have plenty of seeds for next year.
Snap Bean - I liked this one. Tasty with a nice hint of sweetness. It will be back.
Tender Delight - Not so tender and I wasn't delighted!
Malayan Snake - Slow, slow, slow. Only just now beginning to send out runners. Typical of Vigna unguiculata. No good for this area. I expect it will do well in my new home.
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Post by steev on Feb 13, 2014 23:03:37 GMT -5
Regarding Malayan Snake: I found the long-beans I grew that got past me, very easy to dry and thresh; I suspect very useful as dry beans or sprouts, though I've not yet tried them.
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