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Post by richardw on Dec 5, 2013 3:33:49 GMT -5
This parsnip was sent to me from templeton,it sown in a bed thats had about 40cm of underlying stone/clay removed,more soil was added to the original soil to top it up so now this bed is about 1m deep,should be interesting to see what comes from this cross.  |
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Post by templeton on Dec 5, 2013 3:54:25 GMT -5
Hope you get some good 'nips out of these, richard.
Glad the seed got to you, and that it was viable.
Since it was an insect mediated inter-variety pollination, it will probably yield some true breeding lines (Kral) and some F1s - we hope. Maybe hybrid vigour will indicate the crosses.
I'm beginning to question this breeding project - I'm not sure I have the room or climate to grow out an outcrosser like parsnip, and maintain a decent gene pool.
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Post by richardw on Dec 5, 2013 13:02:10 GMT -5
The climate here must be ok for them as they seem to do well.
What i'm hoping for longer term is to stabilize a line that has the of the width from the Kral but has more length,could even add some Hollow crown seed to next springs sowing maybe.
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Post by raymondo on Dec 5, 2013 14:58:18 GMT -5
Given enough space, a parsnip mixed line population (a grex?) would be an easy thing to maintain. But an urban backyard is probably not the place T. Kral seems to have its own flowering rhythm, different to Hablange weisse and Demi long de Guernsey. The latter two are flowering now in my garden, the former flowered some months back.
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Post by templeton on Dec 5, 2013 15:51:59 GMT -5
I've sown out of season to try to speed up the generations, and got some strange responses. I'm tempted to thin and transplant my kral patch to keep the nymbers up, but that might defeat the purpose of selecting roots, since i imagine the transplants will have distorted roots...
I'll try and get some pics today.
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Post by richardw on Dec 6, 2013 12:37:23 GMT -5
Given enough space, a parsnip mixed line population (a grex?) would be an easy thing to maintain. But an urban backyard is probably not the place T. Kral seems to have its own flowering rhythm, different to Hablange weisse and Demi long de Guernsey. The latter two are flowering now in my garden, the former flowered some months back. That will be interesting Ray because i just cant see that any parsnip would flower early for me, but i will be looking forward to seeing if Kral's input within this cross does influence flowering outside of the normal parsnip reproductive Jan-Feb period. |
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Post by richardw on Mar 12, 2014 21:26:43 GMT -5
First look at what this cross has produced,i like what i see too,on the right are ones that have thrown to the Kral and to the far left are three that ive picked out for our local agricultural show,hoping to win three years running,the ones on the left have thrown to the Melbourne White(is that right T?) Only dug a very small part of the bed as there's at least two more months growth to go yet  |
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Post by steev on Mar 12, 2014 22:42:44 GMT -5
Well, I think the stubbies, on the right, are what would work for me; a few more years working the soil, maybe I'll be able to deal with longer roots.
Winning two year's running, and going for a third! Kudos!
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Post by templeton on Mar 13, 2014 18:11:22 GMT -5
Richard, That's a kids toy shovel, right? Wow, very impressive. As to the root characteristics, I can't help. I only grew autumn - winter - spring to get them to flower and cross, at very close spacings, so I have very little idea of the vegetable characteristics. Here's a pic of my current F1 growouts of these lines, Halblange X F1 on the left, Kral X F1 on the right. These are somewhere over 8 feet tall, and the seed is just begining to color up. If anyone would like some, let me know.  On a side note, I must improve my handwriting. I originally intended to call this Bendigo Bitza, as in Bitz of this and bitz of that, but in the venerable tradition of interesting transcription errors, (...send three and four pence <http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/08/26/reinforcements/>) I think we should let it stand - Bendigo Blitz it is (and I won't even suggest spelling it Blitnz...) |
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Post by richardw on Mar 15, 2014 1:31:52 GMT -5
Been told at times i'm been childish,so maybe a kids shovel.
Your current growout is huge
What i plan to do with this winters Bendigo Blitz F1 crop is to select the ones that have thrown heavily to the Kral and the best of the long tapered and replant together for flowering spring,hoping the progeny will merge more uniformity,though i feel it may take a few more generations.
On a side not i won first prize today with the parsnips .....even though mine was the only entry .......sign,what a hollow victory
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Post by templeton on Mar 15, 2014 3:41:58 GMT -5
Well, at least it wasn't a Hollow Crown victory...
Re the size of my flowering stems, maybe a bit of hybrid vigour?
I harvested seed yesterday, and pulled one plant that had totally dried off, from the Kral collection - and it had a long tapering root, so I hope it shows some crossing rather than a labelling stuff up.
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Post by philagardener on Mar 15, 2014 20:49:13 GMT -5
richardw , we were all rooting for you! They certainly look like firsts in my book. Must have scared the competition away.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 15, 2014 21:48:25 GMT -5
Templeton, Mine are in the ground and I'm anxiously waiting for them to spring up! And Richard, I'll take that shovel when you're done with it. Looks like a fine tool!
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Post by richardw on Mar 15, 2014 23:32:25 GMT -5
richardw , we were all rooting for you! They certainly look like firsts in my book. Must have scared the competition away. Must have hey.Should have seen the onions as well,i won both the red and brown section with onions that were double the size of all the competing entries,had many people asking how i get vegetables so big |
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Post by richardw on Mar 15, 2014 23:35:53 GMT -5
Templeton, Mine are in the ground and I'm anxiously waiting for them to spring up! And Richard, I'll take that shovel when you're done with it. Looks like a fine tool! Its been a good shovel that one Holly,bit rounded off with a lot of use,man its moved a lot of shingle though |
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