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Post by richardw on Jan 9, 2013 13:20:52 GMT -5
I sow mine in the autumn so that i can select for frost tolerances as low as -9C,what's that about 18F?,90% roughly dont suffer any damage at that temp where the other 10% get pulled out. Here's a photo of them this morning after a wild nights weather,had gusts up over 140km and they are still standing up ok without any support  |
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 9, 2013 13:48:21 GMT -5
Richard, your garden is looking very lovely.
Mayz, what does winter look like in Belgium?
John, frost in Florida? I have more favas if you need them.
Steev, we're having that freezing fog stuff. Brrr, it's like friggin' London. Can I say friggin' on this forum without insulting someone? Coldest place in the world, London. The damp sinks into your bones and there's nothing for it except to go somewhere else. I'm sure they thought I was was mad. I wore wool tights, wool long underwear, wool socks, my Minnesota -40 boots, and the pavement instantly sucked the heat out of my feet. I wore a wool coat, wool pants, a wool shirt, an alpaca scarf and hat, and a down vest. If I had fallen over, I would not have been able to get up. People just stared at me when I entered a pub and started to unwind my clothing. Sniggering, they were.
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Post by davida on Jan 9, 2013 14:11:08 GMT -5
I sow mine in the autumn so that i can select for frost tolerances as low as -9C,what's that about 18F?,90% roughly dont suffer any damage at that temp where the other 10% get pulled out. Here's a photo of them this morning after a wild nights weather,had gusts up over 140km and they are still standing up ok without any support Beautiful. Wow and they look this good after wind gusts of 140km or 87mph. I would agree that it was "a wild night's weather". |
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Post by mountaindweller on Jan 10, 2013 2:30:49 GMT -5
I can't compare with the big boys and girls here but I harvested my fava or broad beans (aquadulce) a month ago and they were incredible prolific. We had snow high winds and they are bothered by nothing.
I had two spots and one was far better than the other this was were I cut the corn back to a meter or so and planted the beans in between the dead corn.
Some seeds were discoloured do you eat them too? We did.
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Post by richardw on Jan 10, 2013 3:28:20 GMT -5
I get discolouring some times at the end of the season before a pick the seed if the weather has been too wet,cant see why you couldn't eat them.
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Post by raymondo on Jan 10, 2013 4:08:58 GMT -5
I grew out some seed from a fava I grew a few years back. I was hoping for a seed increase but I must have inadvertently crossed them up. Instead of being golden brown, they were all purple, some dull, others shiny. I'll have to grow out what I have left in the hope that not all of it was crossed up!
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Post by mayz on Jan 10, 2013 4:13:55 GMT -5
Mayz, what does winter look like in Belgium? slightly colder than London with the same humidity and the same luminosity (in fact should say same lack of luminosity). Not specialy attractive for tourism. Fortunately our summer is usually better than the London's summer. I'm mainly impressed by the luminosity of your pics. Here sun in winter means hard frosts. |
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Post by YoungAllotmenteer on Jan 10, 2013 15:07:21 GMT -5
I'm fascinated by Fava's ;D This year I plan to grow (First 2 from Seedzoo): Yerevan Purple Fava (8 Plants) Surami Fava (8 Plants) Norka (13 Plants) Courtesy of Oxbow. I just need to decide which variety/ies to grow for 'bulk' production. I would like to freeze around 5kgs for winter, plus eat every week during the season, last year I had 60 plants I think and it was about 1/4 of the volume I wish to plant this year. Interested in trading for other interesting Fava varieties also  Interested in peoples planting patterns for Fava's, did mine 30cmx30cm roughly last year, and they were a nightmare to keep upright. Wont be growing them on a ridge this year, that didn't help. |
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Post by petitvilaincanard on Jan 10, 2013 16:57:53 GMT -5
ah,another fava thread. Got to join of course. This got me come back to this forum.(I was formerly nuts for those who missed it),I HAVE to show my favas! I mainly planted dumont grex mixed what was left over as rescue stock from my own. Last winter I had about 99,5% destruction of frost.talked about here alanbishop.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=beans&thread=6697&page=2#77464I was extremely happy with the dumont favas I planted in begin mars as rescue.I could reconstitute a good seed stock for last fall. And I need a lot of seeds!Most of the ffavas in mypics are from these. I'm even more excited about the 0.5% survivals(3 plants)These made the disaster a succes. I will be able to share a part of the progeniture off these coming august or so. I also purchased "cote d'or' ,a fava been talked about in a thread.I'll plant the 20 or so grains february/march so I hope to be able to share of these in august. However all the extra winterresistant beans I have are small seeded varieties(I call feveroles) including ''cote d'or".Except one of the three survivars of last winter that gave medium sized favas,probably a cross between a feverole and a big seeded fava. I planted big seeded favas around the survivors last march,so my lines of super frost resistant feveroles aren't pure anymore allready.But anyway I want medium/big sized beans. I need more extra cold winters!Or maybe someone with regular super cold winters can make more progress then I. I also purchased Alan Capulers "Ianto's Return"-mix,that is claimed to be rather cold resistant.I'll plant it late winter too.Probably a good start for those who want autumn planted favas.It's not to late for february/march planting!(Even if only it's for multiplying seed stock) some ffotos now Mostly dumont/nuts-mix These are south of those big panes and have lots off light-reflexion.They look nice but strong winter has to come yet.Planted the last days of october.  These planted the same time but in less luminous conditions  closeup  semi frost resistant up to the spiral thing dumont/nuts behind,planted beginning november  more favas  more favas,planted in the corn as is  aargh! an open space in the cabbage! got to plant some favas...  The last planted,begin december  This volonteer won't survive the winter It's far too big,must have emerged in august or september.The -5°C frost we had in december blackened the lower part of the stem  feveroles in my other garden..  I have my own coception about straight lines  So don't forget to ask me about favas in august iff you're interested. |
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Post by raymondo on Jan 10, 2013 17:02:44 GMT -5
Like the pics. You must be fond of favas. I only grow them for the dry seed. Makes wonderful houmos.
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Post by atash on Jan 10, 2013 19:07:49 GMT -5
I gotta plant some favas too. It hasn't been too cold, and even the frost we're expecting soon doesn't sound too bad, so I should clear out a spot and plant some. I could always protect them if we do get some real cold.
Fava houmous doesn't sound too bad.
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Post by steev on Jan 10, 2013 21:06:15 GMT -5
I've eaten fava hummus, not too different from chickpea hummus, equally yummus. I also use finger-length pods much like green beans and the tender leafy tips are a good pot-herb. Fresh pods with tender seeds are better for keeping small kids occupied than syrup-and-a-feather.
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Post by steev on Jan 13, 2013 22:48:53 GMT -5
My December-sown favas are still happy, although not growing much (still ~1"), they've still only seen 28F.
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Post by templeton on Jan 14, 2013 0:05:47 GMT -5
I only plant 'em coz I can't stand to see bare garden beds. Probably get one feed off them, then they get pulled to make way for real vegetables. Don't like the mealy dry mouth-feel unless they are double -skun - too much trouble.
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Post by steev on Jan 14, 2013 1:16:28 GMT -5
I don't know what you said, templeton; you only get one batch of pods; what? "Skun"? Speak English! Oh, sorry; prolly wouldn"t help, eh!
I doubt the whole fava family is of much use to those of us not in the Mediterrenian area, but what the hell; we can give it a shot. It's not like they've worked on my farm, but I don't know; could be my fault. I don't think so, but... I like fava beans.
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