Hi Stillman. I like your 3 metre challenge - going with any snowpeas or beans up a trellis? My general approach is to grow the stuff where the quality of what I grow is significantly better than in supermarkets, and gives the best return for my space and water. So I don't really worry too much about growing spuds, onions, carrots, pumpkins. Mine might taste a bit better, but I get more return (=qualityXquantityXcost of resources) growing stuff that doesn't transport well or hold very well in supermarkets - salads, greens, tomatoes, beans, snowpeas, herbs, or those which are very convenient to have on hand rather than buying a big amount from the grocery store - bunching onions, chillis cucumber, etc. I wish I shared your enthusiasm for Kale
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I will be using a trellis for beans and peas but not this first crop, not a fan of Kale? I have 4 varieties this Autumn so I will be trying a heap of different recipes, I like the flavour, particularly raw. I'll look into the follow button, Rowan I think there is a google follow button already at the top right, can you see that or maybe you have to have a google account to see it?
Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Apr 1, 2014 11:34:40 GMT -5
I am not a fan of kale. It tastes horrid and bitter to me... Raw, chipped, steamed: Doesn't matter. So last week I was working out of town, and someone offered me a green salad with LOTS of kale in it. What's a fellow to do? Offend his hostess by not eating it? Waste the food which would be an even greater offense?
So I ate the kale, and it was sweet and tender. Oh Duh!!! It's got the same problems that broccoli does in my garden from trying to grow a cool-weather moisture loving maritime-adapted species in the high desert.
So then a few days later I was on the web site of my favorite regional seed grower and noticed that they do not grow or sell broccoli seed. No wonder!!! Crops like Broccoli and Kale just don't do well here. Even if the plants can be grown they are unpalatable. Therefore, I'll stop feeling bad about myself at the farmer's market for not growing broccoli or kale.
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Post by flowerweaver on Apr 1, 2014 12:22:44 GMT -5
I usually think people who don't like kale have never had it cooked right. Our Russian kales are sort of pungent (but not bitter) like mustards so we tend to sautee them in olive oil with garlic and potatoes, tomatoes and garbanzos, etc. The Scotch Curled is sweet but too toothy to eat raw, so I very lightly steam and chill it to put into a kale salad with tamari, sesame seeds, red onion, garlic, red pepper flakes. I also cook it over high heat, turning it with tongs to crisp it like chips. Any kale tastes great with a nut sauce, like toasted cashews or sunflower seeds, tamari or cashew butter, garlic, lemon juice or basalmic vinegar blenderized into a gravy-like sauce.
Drip irrigated gardening in the arid southwest on a beautiful pile of alluvial rocks where the hill country meets the desert. It's a food desert, too: a 3 hour round trip to the grocery store.
Post by 12540dumont on Apr 1, 2014 12:56:03 GMT -5
I'm also not a fan of kale. A spitter! Almost as bad as Brussel Spouts.
Until...last year I made kale chips.
Steam kale. Whir it in the food processor and add Very Yaki Terriyaki. Pour it onto dehydrator sheets and let it dry on medium until crisp. Now that's good! Crumble and put it on salad. Add it at the end of stir fry, sprinkle it on rice. Suddenly kale is yummy.
Greens are one of those cultural things; given a robust cultural presence of them in one's diet, it's unthinkable not to eat them; it's just vitamin G(reens).
My neighbor, the chef, was crabbing that the three broccoli plants in his garden only produced dinky florets; luckily, he intends to cook the leaves (lovely, enormous leaves) as "collards"; should be PDG.
Holly: you're not supposed to eat kale in the heat, only in the Fall, after frost, during Winter, and in Spring, when there's diddly else in the garden. Kale "broccoli" is a delicacy, as are wild mustard and collard "broccoli".
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