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Post by templeton on Apr 16, 2014 4:20:52 GMT -5
With my coloured snow pea project I just leaped in and crossed up the coloured peas with any snowpeas that happened to be growing in the garden. By a stroke of good fortune I chose some good parental lines, giving me disease resistance, dwarf and tall, and big pods. I've since acquired more snows and snaps, and went through the shoebox and found a number of snows that I didn't grow that year, So taking a somewhat belated backward step, I've decided to trial all the snows and snaps in my collection for an autumn/winter growout, to see which ones have the nicest characteristics, and which might be suitable for crossing into my existing F5 coloured snow lines. So yesterday I soaked, and today I sowed 2943 - chinese snow 2423 - chinese snow Yakumo Al's generic snow Chamber of Death Swiss Giant Melting Mammoth Roi de Carouby Sugar Anne Oregon Giant Sugar Sprint Dwarf Sugar Snap Lacy Lady Oregon Spring Delta Louisa Oregon Giant Snowman Sugar Snap Bush DT Brown generic snow Oregon I'm guessing some of these are just replicates given different names by the seed retailers, but at least I will find out.  |
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Post by oxbowfarm on Apr 16, 2014 9:58:08 GMT -5
Chamber of Death is a very interesting name for a snow pea, assume its from an amateur breeding project? I'd expect a name like that to be attached to a superhot pepper, if anything.
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 16, 2014 13:33:19 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to your results. P.S. My parsnips look great!
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Post by templeton on Apr 16, 2014 17:20:04 GMT -5
Chamber of Death is a very interesting name for a snow pea, assume its from an amateur breeding project? Almost. 'Chamber of Death' came from a contact who worked in a plant breeding facility that used to contract in work from other breeding companies. One of these contracts was assessing various pea lines for their resistance to diseases, which were tested in the facility's disease resistance house. This was a survivor, and found it's way into some of the workers' vege gardens. The name CoD just emerged over a period of time by osmosis during correspondence. My original designation for it was 'Unnamed Snow Pea, Powdery Resist or USPPR, but CoD is much more fun. The researcher who selected it was apparently most amused at the new designation. It shakes off powdery mildew like raindrops, while all around are succumbing. I think it's probably got the double genes (er1 and er2) for powdery resistance. There might be other stuff lurking in there as well. These are my last 8 seeds, so I hope it produces something. If not, the genes live on.  T |
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Post by templeton on Apr 16, 2014 17:33:35 GMT -5
I forgot to add that the intention of the growout is to taste test the peas to find the sweetest, nicest tasting pea, looking for both sweet pods and sweet green peas. I'm thinking along the lines of 'Oregon Giant Sugar Pea'. I know some of these have sweet pods, and I've tasted it in some of my purple snow lines, but just looking at the seeds suggests the sweet pea genes aren't in most of these lines - not many of them have wrinkled seed coats. It would be nice to introduce these characteristics into my stabilising coloured snow lines. Productivity and winter growth potential might get assessed too.
T
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Post by raymondo on May 8, 2014 5:49:26 GMT -5
... These are my last 8 seeds, so I hope it produces something. If not, the genes live on. T Your last eight of CoD? I saved quite a few in 2012. I'll send you some. |
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Post by templeton on May 8, 2014 19:28:42 GMT -5
... These are my last 8 seeds, so I hope it produces something. If not, the genes live on. T Your last eight of CoD? I saved quite a few in 2012. I'll send you some. Yep, I forgot to save any when i grew them out for crossing. But I think they've germinated - will go out and check at garden no.2 this weekend. T |
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Post by 12540dumont on May 11, 2014 19:21:03 GMT -5
This year I grew 3 types of snow peas. None are very sweet. Next year, I'm going back to shelley peas.
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Post by ferdzy on Aug 16, 2014 6:51:07 GMT -5
Templeton, any news to report on this project?
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Post by templeton on Aug 16, 2014 17:19:07 GMT -5
Ferdzy, The trial got hammered with an autumn infestation of red-legged mite, that killed many of the varieties outright, left some as sticks that are just resprouting after winter frosts, but interestingly didn't smash one of the chinese snow varieties. My trial of 4 lines of purple snow siblings next door showed variation in resistance, with two varieties nowhere near as affected as the others. Most of the varieties just totally succumbed. I've replanted some of the gaps with new varieties, but the comparison trial is not really going to work. However not all is lost - I've identified some bug resistant varieties, and have narrowed down my purple snow growouts. The smashed purple snows  The resistant purple snows - parsnips and saffron behind the trellis, with some self sown lettuce  Damaged survivors  T |
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Post by ferdzy on Aug 16, 2014 18:18:56 GMT -5
Man, I complain about pests but at least nothing is eating my legumes. (*knocks wood*)
So did Chamber of Death throw off the mildew only to succumb to mites? I'm glad to hear you have some survivors though.
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Post by templeton on Aug 16, 2014 21:20:49 GMT -5
Haven't seen any powdery yet - it usually kicks in when the plants are really thickening up on the trellis. No doubt I'll get it soon enough. I think most if not all of the CoDs were mite smitten. There might have been one of two survivors - I'll check next time I get out to G2.
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