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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Feb 20, 2017 15:50:19 GMT -5
Last year I had zero jermination on about 8 accessions each of S. galapagense and S. cheesmanii. Tonight I pooled the remaining seed from each species, and planted them into a single pot for each species. The S. cheesmanii is jerminating well. There were about ten seedlings this morning. There was one seedling of S. galapagense. I suppose that they will get added to my list of parents to use in crosses. And if they grow acceptably, I'll be adding two more species to my seed offerings. I raised some S. corneliomulleri seed last summer. It is sprouting well. I also grew a single S. corneliomulleri plant with S. peruvianum, S. habrochaites, and S. pennellii nearby as possible pollen donors. It produced seeds, but none of them have jerminated so far, and it's been a couple of weeks longer than the pure S. corneliomulleri jermination attempt. The seeds that produced these plants, in the orange pots, came out of S. habrochaites, LA1777. The pollen donor may have been F1:[domestic X LA1777], or the plant might have self-pollinated. So they are either 100% LA1777, or they are 75% LA1777, and 25% domestic. Perhaps I'll be able to notice some phenotype differences later on that will help me decide which happened. The plant in the gray pot is F2:[Fern X LA1777].  |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Feb 25, 2017 1:18:55 GMT -5
My first sample S. Cheesmaniae have germinated well and i have several viable looking seedlings growing. I'm looking forward to planting more soon. My sample of S. galapagense too has had poor germination with zero germinated. Last year i seem to remember the galapagense seedlings being more sparse and maybe longer to germinate, but i still had many come up. Though last year i did do the recommended bleach-water 30min-1 hour treatment on all of them. Perhaps the galapagense strain do indeed have a harder dormancy to break than the S. cheesmaiae. Though from what i've read the S. galapagense is the more interesting one of the two. I should have plenty of seeds to try for them too. maybe i will do the recommended seed treatment again this year.  I also have a few tesst seedlings for S. peruvianum and S. habrochaites from peace seeds, though i did not put labels to indicate what is what. They are only separated by a slight distance in three distinct patches.  |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Feb 25, 2017 16:17:01 GMT -5
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 1, 2017 18:50:47 GMT -5
Yesterday i had two S. galapagense seedlings pop up. Today there are a total of TEN! I guess they were just a bit late in germinating.
Out of the 6 or so S. Cheesmanaie three seem to have dark anthocyanin stems, the others do not. One has very dark stems. Too early to see if there are any antho stems on this batch of S. galapagense seedlings, though i think i used this as my "test batch" because they don't and it wouldn't be as big a loss if these ones all died or failed to germinate.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 12, 2017 1:07:26 GMT -5
Last year I had zero germination on about 8 accessions each of S. galapagense and S. cheesmanii. Tonight I pooled the remaining seed from each species, and planted them into a single pot for each species. I figure that way, if nothing germinates that at least it's not taking up so much room. I also changed the configuration of the germination chamber to be about 83F/65F day/night. Today i planted seed for 4 accessions of S. galapagense, one S. cheesmaiae, 2 S. habrochaites, and 1 S. peruvianum. I used the 1:1 ratio of water:bleach method soaked for 30 min for all of them (with a little lemon juice and cream of tartar mixed in). For S. galapagense and S. cheesmaniae they actually recommend 1 hour soaking, but i only did 30 min. My earlier pots of test S. galapagense and S. cheesmaniae seemed to have germinated well. I have at least 5 seedlings of each that i can probably separate at some point into separate pots. The S. galapagense did take longer to germinate though and when i was still unsure if they would germinate at all i did add a little lemon juice to the soil one day. Not sure if it helped, but i guess it didn't hurt. One of the accessions i think for S. cheesmaniae for the notes i wrote on the seed packet said exerted stigma and antho, so that sounds exciting. One of the S. galapagense accessions said red fruit which is unusual. I'm hoping the orange-brown fruit one actually is brown. |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on May 6, 2017 14:25:51 GMT -5
I still need to figure out how i'm going to plant the seeds for the normal tomato varieties i had wanted to grow this year. I was focusing on the wild-ish ones first. I have seedlings for Solanum habrochaites vg , Solanum habrochaites Fuzzy Leaf, Solanum Peruvianum, 0429 SC (antho, flowers large, exerted stigmas), 1408 SG (red fruit), 0530 SG (orange-brown fruits), 1410 SG (purple fruit), Fern x LA1777, LA1996 (Aft), LA4040 (IL 2-5 from S. pennellii), LA0214 (Dark Anthers from S. peruvianum), Orange Peach.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on May 11, 2017 16:46:28 GMT -5
Neat! I have Joseph's two S. Habrochaites strains, S. Peruvianum and S. Cornelio-muellerii x S. Peruvianum (currently blooming) plus a "dwarf hirsutum cross" from j & l gardens in New Mexico. I have a ton of relatively ordinary tomatoes started. Getting late to start them unless they are short season or you are long season. You could try direct seeding them. So i planted all the wild-ish tomatoes today. At least one of each. I have a few extras of some i may plant somewhere else. But i decided to try direct seeding all the remaining 20-40 varieties of commercial seeds. Mixed them all up grex style. Will watch for those that grow the fastest i guess and thin at some point. Whatever survives and grows well is what i figure i want in my climate anyway, just didn't expect to be participating in the direct seeding experiment this year as well. Just so busy and not time to maintain a garden this year so doing my best. |
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Post by steev on May 11, 2017 22:18:48 GMT -5
These past drought years have made it clear to me that deer will eat tomatoes and Japanese iris; never saw that before; just knew the little darlings will "sample" things to death, even when they don't like them.
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Post by mjc on May 11, 2017 23:10:57 GMT -5
Deer will eat ANYTHING (at least once...).
They regularly eat tomato plants here...no drought needed. They will eat tomatoes, but unlike raccoons, groundhogs and other 'small' critters, they tend to be rather picky as to which ones they sample. Between the amount of beans and tomatoes they scarf down, you'd think it would be very easy to whip up venison chili...
They will even eat various peppers, at least the leaves. And yes, I've caught them sampling Habaneros...as in actually seen the animal eating them...wishing I had brought my rifle to the garden.
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Post by steev on May 11, 2017 23:53:18 GMT -5
Vermin; really, just vermin; to those who like to eat them: please, eat faster.
The deer used to run on rails on my farm, morning and evening; haven't much seen them since the mountain lions came in; can't say I miss them; the pumas don't scare me; research appears to indicate that we top-predators don't much want to prey on each other (you vegetarian/vegans may want to stay out of the boonies, smelling so non-carnivorous/predatory). Given that the deer preyed on my plants. but the cougars don't, I prefer the latter. I realize this conflicts with my rancher neighbors, but I have no complaint with whatever they need to do, provided it isn't short-sighted and toxic to the ecosystem.
Actually, I think being taken out by a mountain lion would beat the shit out of dying from cancer or old age.
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Post by mjc on May 12, 2017 1:05:09 GMT -5
Actually, I think being taken out by a mountain lion would beat the shit out of dying from cancer or old age. Or starving because the longed-legged field rats ate everything in sight... |
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Post by steev on May 12, 2017 1:32:43 GMT -5
Well, I'd do my best to take them out before I'd starve; eating enough of their offal, I'd prolly not miss the fodder they'd scarfed up, vitamin-wise.
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Post by SteveB on May 12, 2017 11:57:44 GMT -5
Rodents= protein dinner is calling😸....
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on May 12, 2017 12:06:02 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that i have some seedlings of LA4135 an F1 S. lycopersicon X S. Pennellii that is in the group of wilds and semi-wilds. Joseph might be interested in offspring from that. Will try to plant some seeds for LA0716 S. Penellii and LA1969 S. Chilense today though it is late. Worth a try anyway. I will be watching LA4040 closely because it is supposed to be the introgression line drom S. Pennellii for the unfused anther cone and S. Pennellii flower genes.
The one plant i have of the seed Joseph sent me for F2 Fern x LA1777 seems to look very healthy.
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Post by SteveB on May 12, 2017 13:41:43 GMT -5
Wow.. All these numbers and names... My head is spinning. I only focus on production and commendable mutations. Maybe I need to go to school... If I'm not "to old""....
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