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Post by littleminnie on Jul 23, 2014 10:18:59 GMT -5
I hate to start another thread on crossing legumes but I don't know if I should take over one that is already going. Last year I grew Rattlesnake and Purple pole bean all mixed together. I saved the seed and did the same again. I would like to have a Rattlesnake tasting pole bean which was a little more purple. So I started picking the pole beans last Thursday. (Missed lots of ripe ones and so there will be lots of seed to save!) So far one plant shows crossing of the whole row. One plant is putting out beans like I want. So obviously I need to mark them and stop picking that plant and get them saved and bagged separately. The beans are just like rattlesnake only more purple in color. So out of 50 feet and maybe 100 plants or so one was crossed I think.
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Post by ferdzy on Jul 23, 2014 11:48:31 GMT -5
That's about the rate of crossing I seem to get in my garden... they don't cross all that easily, but it does happen.
I'm continuing to grow out my Dolloff/Cherokee Trail of Tears hybrid this year. They went in very, very late so no beans yet, but I'm waiting impatiently to see what happens next. I've also got some pole peas that seem to be a cross between Dual and Spanish Skyscraper this year and I have them tied up with purple string! Definitely interested in seeing what comes out of that.
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Post by philagardener on Jul 23, 2014 12:29:34 GMT -5
littleminnie , sounds like you found what you wanted! 1% sounds like a Goldilocks number. Not too much and not too little! :>)
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Post by littleminnie on Aug 4, 2014 21:41:19 GMT -5
I have 2 plants that I found now and have marked, but oddly I don't really love them. I might just go back to all Rattlesnake.
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Post by oldmobie on Aug 4, 2014 23:21:36 GMT -5
I have 2 plants that I found now and have marked, but oddly I don't really love them. I might just go back to all Rattlesnake. They look good. What don't you like? Is it the taste?
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Post by steev on Aug 5, 2014 0:11:30 GMT -5
Not every new thing is an improvement; I despise the whole idea of smart-phones; leads to bad driving, in my experience.
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Post by ferdzy on Aug 5, 2014 7:53:21 GMT -5
If you saved seed from this would it segregate out into more variable lines next year? I admit I don't know the answer to this. I am growing out my cross but it has not started to even flower yet (planted July 1st!) So far, I have to say the plants all look pretty consistent though.
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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 5, 2014 10:59:06 GMT -5
Just remember what this cross looks like, not all beans show that they are crossed in their seed coat.
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Post by oxbowfarm on Aug 5, 2014 13:06:44 GMT -5
If you saved seed from this would it segregate out into more variable lines next year? I admit I don't know the answer to this. I am growing out my cross but it has not started to even flower yet (planted July 1st!) So far, I have to say the plants all look pretty consistent though. Yes. The F1 seed from the Dolloff/Brown Trout cross I'm playing with was very distinct from both parents. The F2 offspring were all over the map, but none of them looked anything like the F1. They also segregated for bush vs pole, and are still doing so, and I think they may have also engaged in recrossing as the rows of bush plants are showing pole segregants etc.
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Post by ferdzy on Aug 5, 2014 17:26:27 GMT -5
Oh, I had forgotten that thread! Well now I am more impatient than ever for my beans to shake a leg. Not so much as a bud yet...!
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Post by littleminnie on Aug 5, 2014 20:54:38 GMT -5
The idea was to keep the rattlesnake taste and look but have it be more purple and easier to pick/find. But I think it is uglier not prettier now.
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