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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 13, 2015 13:45:37 GMT -5
 okay, that's a pain in the butt. But thank you Phila! It used to be so simple. I'd like on add an image and could get anything from my computer. Now it's a 4 step process. drag to piccassssssssa. make it public. right click url (I have a mack) post to new hurl. copy to hg. Sigh.... |
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Post by ilex on Jan 13, 2015 18:14:08 GMT -5
"Del ferro". You could translate it as "from the nail" or something like that. These were hung from the ceiling, and you needed a nail to hang them.
It's a winter storage tomato from Mallorca. Also know as "tomate de colgar" in the rest of Spain, or "ramellet"/"ramallet" in Mallorca. Comes from Son Fortuny, Sant Joan, Mallorca, Spain. Will keep 5-9 months at room temperature.
I think it's determinate, drought resistant. Plant early as you want to pick them before it rains. I try to pick them in July, before possible August thunderstorms.
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Post by philagardener on Jan 13, 2015 19:37:33 GMT -5
Plant early as you want to pick them before it rains. I try to pick them in July, before possible August thunderstorms. I've heard this before. Do you think that is to keep the fruit water content low, to avoid splitting, or to prevent some surface coating from washing off? I've wondered if the saponin coating on tomatillos contributes to their long shelf life. |
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 13, 2015 19:56:16 GMT -5
Ahh! Del Ferro. How big are they? Color?
Excellent!
Rain in August? Really? I've seen rain in August, once, I think I was in Minnesota, or maybe Washington.
They are in the pot now, barring any accidents, like cats sleeping on them, they'll be in the ground the first of April. IF this drought continues, maybe Mar 15, with row covers!
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Post by steev on Jan 13, 2015 21:28:42 GMT -5
"Tomate de Colgar" looks like "Hanging Tomato", to me.
I've seen rain in August in the East Bay ~every five years, usually accompanied by lightning/thunder, generally not much water, but very entertaining.
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Post by ilex on Jan 14, 2015 8:28:39 GMT -5
"Tomate de Colgar" looks like "Hanging Tomato", to me. I've seen rain in August in the East Bay ~every five years, usually accompanied by lightning/thunder, generally not much water, but very entertaining. I know. We can get some thunderstorms in August. Not every year, not much rain, maybe 2-5 liters, but it affects storage. Just getting wet affects storage, as does cooler, more humid nights. Even if it doesn't rain, those picked late july will store longer. From that point, storage goes down. The rule of thumb is to water these half of regular tomatoes. I reduce watering to a bit every 15 days, and maybe nothing the last month. They can be grown with no water at all, just some rain in April or so. In Mallorca that's how they are grown. Less water means longer storage and more flavour. |
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Post by ilex on Jan 14, 2015 8:31:56 GMT -5
Ahh! Del Ferro. How big are they? Color? Excellent! Rain in August? Really? I've seen rain in August, once, I think I was in Minnesota, or maybe Washington. They are in the pot now, barring any accidents, like cats sleeping on them, they'll be in the ground the first of April. IF this drought continues, maybe Mar 15, with row covers! These are small, so bigger than a cherry. Color? I don't remember, so probably the usual pinkish with orange shoulders. Quite characteristic of the family. I should have a photo. Will take a look. |
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Post by ilex on Jan 14, 2015 8:40:43 GMT -5
Just so you get an idea. We should get about 17'' a year, 60-70% in October but that's an average in a very irregular climate. We do get 10-20'' in one day from time to time, which makea the average go higher. Summers are DRY.
Last year we got less than half, and half of that in one day. I had to wait 14 months to see .65'' in one day and be able to cultivate with the tractor.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 14, 2015 13:36:33 GMT -5
Paco, it's so dry here now, that I'm thinking about tilling. If I do it later, it may be too late. No rain since the new year. Only 9 inches this year. Thanks for the tomatoes.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 14, 2015 23:23:02 GMT -5
 Okay, I bought this in SF, thought it was spinach. But the seeds are black. Anyone, what is it? |
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Post by steev on Jan 15, 2015 1:16:55 GMT -5
It's Chinese something-or-other; prolly decent cooked greens. Sorry, my year of Mandarin is largely forgotten (plus they've "modernized" the characters, so much of what I once knew is out-dated).
Ain't it a bitch when the world moves past you?
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Post by philagardener on Jan 15, 2015 6:19:04 GMT -5
Ain't it a bitch when the world moves past you? Depends which way it is going . . . |
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Post by Al on Jan 15, 2015 17:46:36 GMT -5
August is the Monsoon season here in Edinburgh, just when the city hosts the biggest arts festival in the world! Over a million visitors trudge between theatres & show venues wearing plastic ponchos & wondering how anyone can live here at the world's end.
Tomatoes struggle outdoors as well as tourists, usually they get blight. Even under glass if it is a poor summer the low light levels can means many late varieties do not crop well. But early ripening types give me lots of bottled sunshine to see me through the winter. A long keeping tomato sounds good if it is not very late to ripen, if it is determinate would that mean it is fairly low & bushy? I have acquired an old poly tunnel cover which could make some mini hoop houses / large cloches suitable for bush tomatoes. It is insulated double walled polythene from a Keder greenhouse - very superior German stuff in good condition. Should keep tomatoes warm & dry.
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Post by ilex on Jan 16, 2015 2:13:34 GMT -5
They are based on a single recesive gene, so you can have them early, determinate or whatever you want. There are many hundreds varieties to choose from. Maybe not super early because the gene affects ripening, but you can pick green and they will rippen indoors. In fact, you usually pick before fully ripe. I pick when half the bunch is changing color.
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Post by Al on Jan 16, 2015 9:24:38 GMT -5
I am usually pleasantly surprised at how long tomatoes will store in a cool room, nearly til Christmas some years, hanging on a nail would save shelf space. Those Shakers had the right idea hanging everything on pegs. And even picked green they mostly ripen eventually, I try & watch closely for any becoming soft & they get cooked & sieved (passata). I don't understand why people panic about a glut of green tomatoes, making chutney etc. better to just be patient & wait for them to turn red.
This year I will grow Grushovka, Harzfeuer, Orange Banana, Tigerella & Nimbus, maybe I could squeeze in a good long keeping type too. Is a big truss of small fruit likely to keep best & is low water content ,i.e. a paste type good for storage?
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