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Post by prairiegarden on Dec 5, 2015 19:51:15 GMT -5
I have a wonderful fragrant single white rose with a yellow center which had survived at least 6 years growing almost out of the base of a spruce tree because anything which had ventured out away from the trunk had been regularly mowed down. It has slowly been spreading out from under the tree.. but it is nowhere near any sort of situation which would normally be considered good for roses. It has lots of flowers every year but has never set hips until this year when I just found 4 small hips. Three of them have seeds which look viable.
I've never grown roses and am wondering if anyone has any tips about starting them from seed.. I would love to be able to start some canes somewhere more hospitable. One place said they take up to two YEARS to germinate? We've had maybe a week or so of frost and a couple of light snowfalls, will that be stratification enough or should I put them in something and plunk them back outside to do their thing when they feel like it? Any help much appreciated, I don't want to waste them.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 5, 2015 20:45:41 GMT -5
I don't know much about roses from seeds, but i would think that if the one you have doesn't usually produce rose hips that perhaps they outcrossed this year to a neighbors variety?? i don't know, just a thought.
One year i wanted to grow yellow kiwi's from seed. They supposedly need cold stratification. I found a few weeks in the refrigerator seemed to work fine. Perhaps try cold stratification combined with scarification.
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Post by prairiegarden on Dec 6, 2015 10:50:17 GMT -5
Thought perhaps a cross but there aren't any other roses anywhere near.. maybe it had finally got enough sun that it tentatively put out some seed? Some animals won't breed if there isn't enough food to sustain the family, maybe some plants do the same? If it didn't put out seed at some point it's a mystery as to how it established itself literally at the base of a mature spruce tree, certainly nobody would ever have planted it there.
I have an unheated room, which generally runs about 5 degrees or so warmer than outside, thinking to plant them in peat pots and let them do what they want to do when they want to do it...
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Post by blueadzuki on Dec 6, 2015 14:21:49 GMT -5
Also bear in mind that roses don't come true to seed, so what you get may not be like what the parent was, even if the hips are selfed. Going by my own guts I'd say the fact that yours is a single rose might jump the odds up a tad (if only because single is the wild form for rose, and naturally assorting genes often tend to skew in favor of a return to the wild traits. But it is entirely possible that it's offspring will not have the traits you want.
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Post by prairiegarden on Dec 6, 2015 17:44:38 GMT -5
ah! did not know that. Still, it's worth a shot, some of the traits will probably persevere, even if only a reluctance to die under stress. Who knows? I might get one I like even more!
Guess I will need to do something about cuttings next spring as well though... thank you
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Post by richardw on Dec 7, 2015 13:16:16 GMT -5
Try growing as many seeds as possible and select for the most desirable one once they start flowering, i'm sure you will get many divergent types.
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Post by MikeH on Dec 8, 2015 19:15:35 GMT -5
I have a wonderful fragrant single white rose with a yellow center which had survived at least 6 years growing almost out of the base of a spruce tree because anything which had ventured out away from the trunk had been regularly mowed down. It has slowly been spreading out from under the tree.. but it is nowhere near any sort of situation which would normally be considered good for roses. It has lots of flowers every year but has never set hips until this year when I just found 4 small hips. Three of them have seeds which look viable. I've never grown roses and am wondering if anyone has any tips about starting them from seed.. I would love to be able to start some canes somewhere more hospitable. One place said they take up to two YEARS to germinate? We've had maybe a week or so of frost and a couple of light snowfalls, will that be stratification enough or should I put them in something and plunk them back outside to do their thing when they feel like it? Any help much appreciated, I don't want to waste them. You could try cuttings - mikesbackyardnursery.com/2012/02/how-to-grow-roses-from-cuttings/ |
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