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Post by mjc on May 29, 2017 20:17:17 GMT -5
The bush with the berries looks like a mulberry.
The last looks like another milkweed or dogbane.
The top tree...cottonwood/aspen, probably.
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Post by reed on May 29, 2017 20:31:24 GMT -5
Yep, cottonwood. Lovely trees, when they shed their "cotton" in the spring it can look like snow. And yep, mulberry not sure which variety but they are delicious. [add] I looked closer at the picture, may have spoke too soon on the cottonwood. Leaves and habit just aren't quite right. Maybe birch or hybrid poplar even. Are they on your new property kazedwards? |
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Post by mjc on May 30, 2017 6:36:02 GMT -5
Not a birch...
But, Populus nigra is an option, along with Populus deltoides (cottonwood), Populus tremuloides (aspen) or a hybrid, of which there are several available commercially.
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Post by kazedwards on May 31, 2017 2:25:06 GMT -5
Yep, cottonwood. Lovely trees, when they shed their "cotton" in the spring it can look like snow. And yep, mulberry not sure which variety but they are delicious. [add] I looked closer at the picture, may have spoke too soon on the cottonwood. Leaves and habit just aren't quite right. Maybe birch or hybrid poplar even. Are they on your new property kazedwards? Yes it is on the new property. I didn't notice any "cotton" this spring though. The mulberry looks like a white mulberry form what I have looked at. The are coming up all over. I need to get a mower out there before it gets to out of control. |
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Post by steev on May 31, 2017 2:55:08 GMT -5
Clearly not a white mulberry from the fruit-color; while you may want to control them, mulberries are delicious and commercially unavailable (not ship-able, too fragile, although they can be dried, but nobody does commercially).
Potentially a permaculture/wild-food source that you may want to evaluate before eradication.
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Post by philagardener on May 31, 2017 5:23:53 GMT -5
kazedwards , If you know where there is a true white mulberry, you might try some grafting next Spring!
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Post by mjc on May 31, 2017 7:31:32 GMT -5
If there was no 'cotton' then it's more likely to be one of the commercially available hybrids.
I'd be willing to take a couple of the mulberries, off your hands (cuttings, at least...but it's either too early or to late for that...softwood cuttings would be in a month or so; hardwood either in the fall after leaf drop or early spring, before leaf out).
One of the problems with mulberries, is actually harvesting enough to do anything with. They may be very prolific fruiters, but the birds generally find them irresistible and leave very few behind.
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Post by walt on May 31, 2017 9:06:08 GMT -5
When I was a kid, we'd spread an old bed sheet under the tree, then we'd climb up and shake the branches. Then we had to pick through them and get rid of leaves, twigs, and bad berries.
Mom would serve them for lunch, or make a mullberry-rhubarb pie, or freeze them for later.
I wrote "the tree" above. We must have had more than 50 mullberry trees on our farm. But some had few berries. Others were bland. Those were worth stopping and eating a handful or a dozen andfulls. But one, a half mile from the house, was worth the walk. a mile round trip. And we always carried back a bagfull.
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Post by kazedwards on May 31, 2017 10:17:28 GMT -5
Well the tree is most definitely wild. So I don't know about a hybrid. It may have had cotton I just didn't notice. Could the mulberry be a black mulberry? The leaf does not fit a red mulberry. I have also read that white can have both black and red fruit. I will leave a few of them. Probably transplant closer together. I probably have a hundred of them growing out there. They are small maybe a foot tall. The land has been mowed quite often in the past but hasn't so far this year so a lot is coming up. This is from an upstairs bedroom. If you zoom in on the middle. You can see the tree. The mulberry is under very bushy under it. The tree is also the corner of the property. To the right of it you can see the mow line of the lot next to ours.  |
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Post by philagardener on May 31, 2017 11:46:09 GMT -5
Beautiful vista!
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Post by mjc on May 31, 2017 15:19:54 GMT -5
Yes, it's probably a black mulberry.
As to 'wild' for the undetermined poplar species/hybrid...most of the commercial hybrids aren't sterile and can escape easily. Also natural crosses among the various aspen/cottonwood/'poplar' do occur.
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Post by walt on May 31, 2017 21:52:10 GMT -5
Cottonwoods come in male and female. No cotton may just mean it is male. If you care, check the flowers next year.
Mullberries also come in male and female, but often they swing both ways, at least some.
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Post by mjc on May 31, 2017 22:48:11 GMT -5
Cottonwoods come in male and female. No cotton may just mean it is male. Duh...forgot about that. |
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Post by kazedwards on Jun 1, 2017 19:09:16 GMT -5
The new owner of the old house takes possession next week. So today I transplanted a few things. One was the walking onions. I only took a few nest. I'm not sure were I want to put anything yet so I decided to plant them in the back corner by the mulberry tree. I'm still surprised at easily the new soil is to work.  I also took so strawberries on a whim. I didn't think about it until I was digging the onions. Not sure if they will make it but I figured it's worth a shot. They are easy to replant anyway. They went next to the onions. I figure that I will be moving both of them to a move permanent location this fall once we move out there.  I figured since I was right there I would pick a few mulberries. There weren't many on the small tree and they are pretty small too. I'm thinking I might try to move the tree later this year when I move the others. I'll pull a few of the smaller ones that a growing throughout the lot a plant them together.   |
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Post by kazedwards on Jun 1, 2017 19:13:23 GMT -5
One more thing. The mulberries are kinda bland. Not sure if they were over/under ripe. Only a little sweet and tart. I figure with better care the fruit may get a bit bigger with more flavor. At lest that's what I hope.
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