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Post by richardw on Nov 28, 2016 12:50:22 GMT -5
interesting that in 1811 and 1450 there were also comets. The 1450 had a impact in the water off New Zealand. 450 year cycles suggests comet activity is involved.
Didnt know about 1450 had a impact in the water off New Zealand. www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread25812/pg1
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Post by reed on Nov 28, 2016 13:51:50 GMT -5
I don't think St. Louis is directly on one of the big faults but neither is my house in SE Indiana. Sounds like that would't do us much good though when the big one comes. A US government report I saw says just one 7.7 on the New Madrid would completely wreck large parts of seven states including Missouri and Indiana. I'm pretty sure there is little earthquake resistant construction in eastern US, even in newer buildings. Economic Loss from 7.7 quake Alabama $14 billion - Arkansas $40 billion - Illinois $44 billion - Indiana $12 billion - Kentucky $53 billion - Mississippi $17 billion - Missouri $49 billion - Tennessee $69 billion - Total $298 billion
TOTAL DAMAGES (Buildings-714,300) (Bridges -3,570) (Power Outages-2,611,000) (Causalities - 85,900) www.in.gov/dhs/files/NMSZ_threats_flyer.pdf |
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Post by richardw on Nov 28, 2016 17:49:51 GMT -5
(fatalities - 3,500)- Thats huge lose of life. I'm amazed that there is no forward planing
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Post by nathanp on Nov 28, 2016 18:50:41 GMT -5
St Louis is essentially right on the peripheral of the New Madrid fault line. The Mississippi River flows through St Louis. This makes it look worse. Many Natural Gas pipelines running right through the area. linkI'm not sure if they have any idea what time of year the 1450 or earlier events happened at, but the 1812 one was in February. Having anything like this happen in the winter time would make it far more disastrous, especially if sources of heat such as natural gas, is affected. The 1450 one is the one that they think wrecked the moundbuilder culture. |
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Post by nathanp on Nov 28, 2016 19:01:42 GMT -5
Actually, this maps seems to show that St Louis is right on the fault line. It was just not near the center of the New Madrid earthquake.  |
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Post by reed on Nov 28, 2016 19:20:08 GMT -5
Interesting how the faults roughly correspond to the river valleys. The Wabash Valley branches off there to the north east. There isn't much planning at all I don't think. We mostly just go on the kiss your rear good by principle.
The government paper actually sugar coats it pretty heavily. Lots of power plants along those rivers even if they don't come down, workers won't be able to get there nor will the coal they burn if rivers are blocked with fallen bridges and rail lines broke. Not to mention the whole east of North America is on a single grid. 2.6 million power outages? ha they make it sound like a little thunderstorm or something. Half the continent would go dark and stay that way for a long time. Causalities will be in many millions. Not to mention several of those power plants are nuclear.
Guess that's why we're generally happier pretending it won't happen.
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Post by prairiegardens on Nov 29, 2016 0:10:44 GMT -5
Straw bale houses are pretty earthquake resistant, apparently all that generally happens, if anything, is that the plaster might crack. It seems the bales act like shock absorbers.
As far as the fault lines are concerned, river valleys are also where they generally run oil pipelines..check out what is happening at Standing Rock where they moved the line from the original plan to where they want it now because nobody in Bismark (I think it was Bismark, not up on the towns there) wanted it to go through there. So where they want it now, if it popped a leak, it could contaminate the water downstream potentially for hundreds of miles. Highly possible earthquake scenario: No power, no potable water, impassible roads. Quite the scenario.
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Post by richardw on Nov 29, 2016 12:03:45 GMT -5
Log houses is another earthquake resistant style of building too, the logs scraping on each other during a quake make a heck of a noise though.
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Post by steev on Nov 29, 2016 19:11:18 GMT -5
Think a yurt would work.
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Post by prairiegardens on Nov 30, 2016 1:16:10 GMT -5
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Post by coppice on Nov 30, 2016 11:09:10 GMT -5
After a bigger quake. I think I would park the car for a while. Or drive real slow. Bridges underpasses could well be hazards.
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Post by richardw on Nov 30, 2016 12:53:41 GMT -5
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Post by richardw on Nov 30, 2016 12:57:39 GMT -5
After a bigger quake. I think I would park the car for a while. Or drive real slow. Bridges underpasses could well be hazards. Thankfully no bridges or underpasses collapsed but the land leading up to many sunk |
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Post by steev on Dec 1, 2016 1:58:01 GMT -5
I would note that after the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, there was a famous photo of a cow in an earthquake ravine; turned out that a local farmer, having a dead cow, threw her in there, post-quake.
Nevertheless, as a Cali quake aficionado, I must admit, you've got some impressive results there, mate. We fleas have little choice when Ma Nature shakes her coat, but to hang on. Stay loose; rigid breaks.
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Post by richardw on Dec 3, 2016 1:50:26 GMT -5
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