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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Dec 26, 2016 21:28:02 GMT -5
I know it's a long way from spring, but i just went through my pea seeds and trying to plan where and how i will plant everything this next spring. I think i'm going to use the soaker hose for the peas this year and try and plant them in double rows in-between the hose loops.
Here is the list of the ones i'm going to try my best to plant. If possible as many or all of the peas for each variety in order to significantly increase seed so i can finally start sharing.
Biskopens
Purple Passion
Mighty Midget
Various Dwarfs mixed together (including Dwarf Champion and Tom Thumb)
Parsleys (including Purple Pod Parsley from Zeedman)
Crosses (my purple and red looking seed crosses from 2016 (including one known labeled Mighty Midget x Purple Passion)
Maples / Mummys (collection of Mummy Peas, most with Maple seed coat pattern, but some with pink, green, or white seeds. Includes Mummy-Pea, Mummy White, Salmon-flowered, potential F2 crosses from 2015)
Dwarf Gray Sugar
Purples (various purple podded and at least one F2 umbellatum-purple pod cross (and maybe mis-identified or segregating red podded peas))
Joseph's Yellows and Reds
Sugar Magnolia
Opal Creek
Sugaree? (maybe, did poorly last year)
Large Podded (mix of remaining Carouby, Bijou, and Green Beauty)
Orange Pod
Orc gene peas
Virescens Mutante
and some unknowns that i saved but don't know what they are all mixed together. (a few might be orange pod, others might be salmon-flowered)
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 18, 2017 19:47:18 GMT -5
Today i planted all my breeding peas. Boy there were quite a lot of seeds actually! Here's hoping i get a really nice crop of seed back that i can finally start sharing with those i promised or shared seed with me years ago.
17+ varieties i think.
Purple Pod Parsley & Calvin Lamborn's "Snap Greens"
Virescens Mutante
Sugaree & Sugar Lace II
Orc gene peas
Sugar Magnolia [2015]
Opal Creek [2015]
Mummy's (Mummy-Pea, Salmon-flowered, Mummy White, and segregating F2 crosses)
F1 Cross between Purple Passion and Mighty Midget
Orange-Pod
Mighty Midget
Purple Passion
Biskopens (aka Sweedish Red)
Joseph's Red Podded & Joseph's Yellow Podded
Purples
Dwarf Gray Sugar
Large Podded (Bijou, Green Beauty, Carouby de Maussane)
Dwarfs (Dwarf Champion, Tom Thumb, etc.)
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Post by philagardener on Mar 18, 2017 20:21:57 GMT -5
You must be a lot warmer than we are in Philly - several inches of icy snow on the ground. I risked an early planting a few weeks ago before this cold snap - we'll see how tough they are!
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 18, 2017 23:05:54 GMT -5
Yeah! It was 80F today! It will be again tomorrow and 70s in the next week! There is always a chance we will get some snow again before the end of April or early May, but the alliums and hyacinth plants are all starting to grow like gangbusters and they are the easiest way to tell when it's safe to start planting early spring seeds.
Though even with all this warm weather the denver news have often (And also this year) recommended planting peas on St. Patrick's day. I guess for our normal climate here Late March is the best time to plant peas.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 10, 2017 12:06:23 GMT -5
Yesterday i noticed a few yellow or white colored pea seedlings. Not sure if any of them will green up or not. Though i did find this interesting surprise among them. This one happens to be a varigated pea seedling, so it should survive. Interesting! I will keep my eye on this one to see if it continues to hold surprises. This one happens to be in the batch of what i think to be mixed Joseph's Yellows and Reds. This one appears to also have the hyper-tendril (aka. semi-leafless) trait.  |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on May 16, 2017 14:10:42 GMT -5
The Mighty Midget Peas are currently flowering. They are always the first to do so for me. I found one straggler Mighty Midget in with some others as well, must have been a stray seed. So i marked it with a sharpie to find it again later.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jun 19, 2017 0:15:53 GMT -5
Most of the peas have merged together in a big mass so it's hard to tell where one patch begins as they are all so tall and leaning over out past where their roots start. I need to take some more pictures of the peas. I have one really interesting (cross?) of salmon-flowered where it is heavily branching in a new way and has like 4 or 5 main stems instead of the normal umbellatum growth habit. It has pink flowers but i suspect it may be a segregating F2 of a cross between salmon-flowered and mummy-white. Very interesting, though i don't have a photo of it. Here is a photo of what i think is an F2 of a cross between a mummy pea and a purple-podded variety (sugar magnolia). This is growing specifically in the purple podded patch, so i think it was the one i identified last year as splotchy purple pods but with distinct fasciated growth even in the F1.   |
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Peas 2017
Jul 26, 2017 5:13:35 GMT -5
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jul 26, 2017 5:13:35 GMT -5
Been harvesting seeds these past couple weeks. Most of the Biskopens are starting to dry down. Though most things are grown together so many are mixed together again. Not quite everything though. Just everything in the middle.
The good news for exciting seeds from crosses are that at least one plant i think has produced F2 seeds for the Purple Passion x Mighty Midget. Purple seeds for this trait is dominant.
I have also found some recombinant red seeds in a few plants that i am calling "true umbellatum" and have true crown/fasciated growth. That means that Biskopens was at least successfully crossed to a Crown pea two seasons ago. This brick-red seed trait seems to be recessive and jives with what info i found about it in the JIC pisum database. I have noticed other red seeds that appear to be different than normal Biskopens like some with not quite as dark red or smaller seeds so i think that means other crosses were successful as well but it took two generations for the recessive trait to reappear.
Most of these crosses still seem to be somewhat long season, but i guess its one step closer to being able to move that trait into other pea lines. Imagine a red podded pea with brick red seeds!
Will try to take some seed pictures at some point. But i have way too many pea seeds to gather and store and organize and sort.
Was hoping to plant a fall crop of something about now but i still have plants to rip up and thresh.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Sept 19, 2017 1:27:45 GMT -5
The good news for exciting seeds from crosses are that at least one plant i think has produced F2 seeds for the Purple Passion x Mighty Midget. Purple seeds for this trait is dominant. Will try to take some seed pictures at some point. But i have way too many pea seeds to gather and store and organize and sort. Here is that photo of the F2 seeds between purple passion.  1499051285357 by Andrew Barney, on Flickr |
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Post by steev on Sept 19, 2017 2:21:46 GMT -5
Interesting, but what will they look like fully dry?
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Sept 19, 2017 19:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by steev on Sept 19, 2017 20:43:49 GMT -5
Fully interesting; little pea-barrels (don't say it, just read it).
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