|
|
Post by richardw on Jan 24, 2017 12:21:41 GMT -5
Now that purple fruit and vegetables are recommended for good health, New Zealand might decide to have a new export crop - Black Boy Peaches. They would be shipped out with their seeds still in place, for us overseas customers to grow. Thats a every good point Diane. got me thinking now. My area would be ideal for fruit production, enough water for irrigation, enough winter cold which peaches need but the most important that we dont get large hail that plagues many of the other main orchard areas of NZ. |
|
|
|
Post by diane on Jan 24, 2017 15:51:59 GMT -5
The peaches and nectarines on sale here at the moment are flown in, tree-ripened, from Australia and sold for $4 a pound. That's about $4 Canadian, Australian and New Zealand, but only about $3 U.S.
|
|
|
|
Post by steev on Jan 25, 2017 1:19:36 GMT -5
This begins to smell like another opportunity for guerrilla gardening: spreading something excellent, but un-big-ag-able. Count me in.
|
|
|
|
Post by richardw on Jan 25, 2017 12:16:49 GMT -5
I think there is potential given that there is no commercial orchards here growing this peach, ive certainly never seen them for sale in supermarkets or farmers markets. First step is i need to find a old strain tree, i know of one which ive asked a mate to chase up because he know the fella who's land the tree is on, and a woman on Facebook who's mother has a dark coloured fruit tree as well. We know Canada wont allow the seed in, but the US??, can someone find out.
|
|
|
|
Post by taihaku on Jan 28, 2017 15:24:25 GMT -5
... but i'm noticing that the fruit is not the same colour as the fruit of my childhood. We always had pineapples and tangerines for Christmas, the only time we had such, to us, exotic and I'm sure expensive treats. I especially remember the tangerines, the peeling just fell off and the flavor was wonderful. Haven't tasted anything like them in fifty years. Maybe we're just old and nostalgic. Saw an heirloom orchardist talking on youtube; he said all the older customers at his market asked him to grow "Beauty of Bath" and swore it was the best apple ever. He duly did and it was not....and people said it wasn't as good as they remembered. He reckoned it was due to it being the first apple available each year in a time before global import/export. Everyone remembered it as being amazing not because it was good but just because it was special. It just didn't stand up in the modern era without the magical context it used to have. I think perhaps a lot of these old varieties may be the same....whereas some are just special! |
|
|
|
Post by khoomeizhi on Jan 28, 2017 19:16:07 GMT -5
I think there is potential given that there is no commercial orchards here growing this peach, ive certainly never seen them for sale in supermarkets or farmers markets. First step is i need to find a old strain tree, i know of one which ive asked a mate to chase up because he know the fella who's land the tree is on, and a woman on Facebook who's mother has a dark coloured fruit tree as well. We know Canada wont allow the seed in, but the US??, can someone find out. i wonder about sending scion wood too, instead of seed... |
|
|
|
Post by kazedwards on Jun 8, 2017 11:02:53 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by kazedwards on Jun 8, 2017 11:23:22 GMT -5
Raintree just got back to me. Looks like they carry it. I don't know if it's the right one  |
|
|
|
Post by mjc on Jun 8, 2017 12:51:49 GMT -5
Stone fruits, unlike apples and pears, are more likely to come true or close to true, from seed. One of the reasons is many are self-fertile, so there's less chance of being fertilized by foreign pollen. Another reason, especially true in an orchard situation, is that the are grown in 'blocks', at least at all the orchards I'm familiar with. The peach in question, is a very old, French (originally) variety, so it's likely to come true/nearly true from seed. Grafting/scion wood will preserve a particular tree, but this is old enough and widespread enough that it's unlikely that all of the ones around are from a single parent, so seed grown ones have happened in the past. Plus there are several French sites that recommend seedling propagation...one says this peach is NOT a specific variety. One specific variety is... Sanguine de Savoie A couple similar US available varieties are Indian Blood and supposedly Indian Free (it's usually listed as a white peach, but can vary in color due to growing conditions). Here's a blurb on Indian Blood www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=360Here's a couple more... Sanguine Tardeva training.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/AccessionDetail.aspx?id=1552568Sanguine Pilat |
|
|
|
Post by richardw on Jun 10, 2017 15:54:54 GMT -5
Ive managed to get 30 stones from a tree thats a great distant away from any other stone fruit tress. The fruit is as solid dark as ive seen. So need to full some pots with soil/compost and get them sown, then spend the winter getting the chill needed.
|
|
|
|
Post by richardw on Jun 10, 2017 16:00:49 GMT -5
Plus there are several French sites that recommend seedling propagation...one says this peach is NOT a specific variety. Thats interesting, That might explain why i'm seeing so much difference in flesh colour. |
|
|
|
Post by mjc on Jun 10, 2017 19:25:16 GMT -5
Thats interesting, That might explain why i'm seeing so much difference in flesh colour. The more I dug into some of the French sites, the more it seems that this a 'type' or 'class' with several named cultivars and probably dozens of 'my grandmother's blood peach' floating around. And it has been confirmed...that the color can vary year to year. I haven't been able to track down anything specific, as to what will cause the deeper coloring. Now if I could find some around here... |
|
|
|
Post by prairiegardens on Jun 15, 2017 17:00:11 GMT -5
Whiffletree Nursery in Ontario had what they called Indian Blood peach but the skin in the photo looks like an ordinary peach, although they say skin and flesh a deep red. They say zone 5 for it.
|
|
