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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2017 12:45:18 GMT -5
This is a common fruit both here and in Lyonnais region of France, but i'm noticing that the fruit is not the same colour as the fruit of my childhood. The photo showing a pile of fruit is the type you only seem to be able to get nowadays but most is whiter again, the other photo is how i remember them, pretty much solid colour. My thinking on this is that the trees you either buy from a nursery or get given have been crossed with other peaches along the line somewhere and because they are not a long lived tree most of the old trees would be long gone, so its going to be hard to find the original strain, unless someone has some trees in a remote area where they cant cross. Got talking about this subject on FB where a woman said a nursery told her that they start off mostly white and get darker red/purple as they get hard.... really?? Can a fruit tree change colour or is the nurseryman pulling the wool over her eyes?   |
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Post by philagardener on Jan 22, 2017 14:55:37 GMT -5
is the nurseryman pulling the wool over her eyes? Great color! Really fabulous looking peaches! I don't think I've seen a cultivar like that yet and hope it can be maintained. The answer to anyone pulling wool over the eyes is sharper shears!  Most fruit trees are selections from diverse gene pools that are clonally propagated by grafting, so the most desirable characteristics frequently don't come true by seed; maybe offspring raised from seed are the reason for variation. |
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2017 17:06:25 GMT -5
 They can pull all they like, they just better watch there fingers dont get chop off. They are a beautiful tasting fruit, so different from all other peaches. Are you able to bring the seed in to US or Canada? I'm certain that each generation is losing the colour because of cross pollination, but as for a tree having its fruit changing colour over time is some what questionable.
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Post by diane on Jan 22, 2017 17:20:55 GMT -5
I think I sent seeds home about 50 years ago when I was working in New Zealand. Either they didn't make it through, or my parents didn't manage to grow them, but we never had them growing here.
Canada allows free entry of flower seeds and most vegetable seeds, but there is a requirement for a phyto for seeds of shrubs and trees, and even more restrictions on any that are of economic importance, like fruit and forestry trees.
I just checked regulations and peach seeds from New Zealand are prohibited.
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Post by reed on Jan 22, 2017 18:21:03 GMT -5
... but i'm noticing that the fruit is not the same colour as the fruit of my childhood. We always had pineapples and tangerines for Christmas, the only time we had such, to us, exotic and I'm sure expensive treats. I especially remember the tangerines, the peeling just fell off and the flavor was wonderful. Haven't tasted anything like them in fifty years. Maybe we're just old and nostalgic. |
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2017 23:40:30 GMT -5
I think I sent seeds home about 50 years ago when I was working in New Zealand. Either they didn't make it through, or my parents didn't manage to grow them, but we never had them growing here. Canada allows free entry of flower seeds and most vegetable seeds, but there is a requirement for a phyto for seeds of shrubs and trees, and even more restrictions on any that are of economic importance, like fruit and forestry trees. I just checked regulations and peach seeds from New Zealand are prohibited. I'm making it a mission to find an old strain of BBP, ive got a woman who's mother has an old tree thats on its last legs, so she's going to get some fruit to check out it colour. |
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2017 23:57:24 GMT -5
... but i'm noticing that the fruit is not the same colour as the fruit of my childhood. We always had pineapples and tangerines for Christmas, the only time we had such, to us, exotic and I'm sure expensive treats. I especially remember the tangerines, the peeling just fell off and the flavor was wonderful. Haven't tasted anything like them in fifty years. Maybe we're just old and nostalgic.
I'm sure we are not just become old nostalgic fools reed, so many fruits are not the same today, the classic case has to be the Nectarine, today's nectarine are hard and tasteless, bred to hard to make transportation easier, fuck the flavour. |
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Post by steev on Jan 23, 2017 1:36:42 GMT -5
Right; what's it matter if fruit is tasty, if you can't ship it thousands of miles and store it for months without it being too ugly to sell? If you're doing huge mono-culture, the local market can't absorb it all fast enough.
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Post by nicollas on Jan 23, 2017 2:38:45 GMT -5
Richard take a look at some pictures of "pêche sanguine", Like this one  |
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Post by reed on Jan 23, 2017 5:48:55 GMT -5
Several years ago on a trip to Hawaii I found pineapples at a farm market that surpassed the ones we had back then. They were small and whitish color. The old woman said if you pick them before they are ripe they won't ripen and when they are ripe you have to eat them right away or they rot. Maybe there is still hope for the tangerines too, in some little farm market in Florida.
I'v certainly never seen a peach like those, they sure look good.
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Post by ferdzy on Jan 23, 2017 7:52:28 GMT -5
I've never seen those either. (And we do grow peaches in Ontario.)They are really lovely.
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Post by coppice on Jan 23, 2017 11:55:31 GMT -5
Has anybody got peach of this color?
I'd grow some from stones even.
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Post by steev on Jan 23, 2017 12:19:10 GMT -5
Stunning!
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Post by diane on Jan 23, 2017 13:53:00 GMT -5
Now that purple fruit and vegetables are recommended for good health, New Zealand might decide to have a new export crop - Black Boy Peaches.
They would be shipped out with their seeds still in place, for us overseas customers to grow.
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Post by richardw on Jan 24, 2017 12:09:43 GMT -5
Richard take a look at some pictures of "pêche sanguine", Like this one WOW , now thats more like the colour flesh i remember. What's interesting though when i google pêche sanguine and go to images you notice some photos with a lot of white, like what we are seeing here in NZ nowadays. |
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They can pull all they like, they just better watch there fingers dont get chop off.
