Vegan Seeds

[richardw]

While hoeing a short time ago i got thinking about what group of people would a seed growers best market, but for seed selected for home garden as opposed to commercial growers, vegans would have to be more likely to grow at least some of there own food, by the way i'm half caveman when it comes to meat, after all how could you not when you live in one of the most meat plentiful countries on the planet.

Its been long enough now that i could market my seed to this vegan community as having no animal product import?. But could it get out of control if for example mouse shit was found in the compost system, or they start considering Slaters and stink bugs as animals and having emotional feelings.

[rowan]

As far as I know I don't get many sales to vegans, most of my sales at markets seem to be to permies, who also have animals to eat. They appreciate vegetables that have been selected for home growers and prefer to buy seeds from small seed sellers. The few vegans I know don't grow their own food, even those who have gardens and are capable.

[richardw]

I dont know any vegans to ask there opinion. Vegans would be more likely to be urban dwellers there for maybe less able to grow there own. Having to buy there veges i wonder how many of them would think about whether blood & bone was used to grow it, make em spit it up if they knew.

[steev]

While I support anyone's right to be vegan, if they so choose, I think that's a pretty unclear-on-the-concept idea; as I've posted before, we eat of ourselves, being related to all life on this planet; the notion of restricting my predation to those of our cousins incapable of fight or flight seems a tad irrational and self-righteously indulgent to me, not that I'm on board with CAFOs and other industrial critter production, but critters are part of the ecosystem, necessarily, and valuable as food-sources. Unlike many of my farm-neighbors, I'm really not a meat-and-potatoes guy; I like lots of those poor defenseless veggies in my diet; so much more variety of taste and texture.

Besides, I understand that, in the case SHTF, herbivores are tastier, so I'm fine with there being lots of vegans, even great slowly-moving herds thereof looking for kale and soy products.

[walt]

So are you growing soy and kale for bait?

[billw]

LOL. It is interesting, isn't it. I have never spent much time thinking about it, but all the vegans that I know are city people who never get their hands dirty.

[nicollas]

In general the path to becoming vegan is not the garden

[walt]

The only vegan I know was once diagnosed with terminal bone cancer.  After getting experimental treatments, she recovered and has lived another 30+ years in mostly good health.  but she just can't handle animal proteins.  She does cook meat for her family sometimes.Not your typical vegan maybe.

[RpR]

My direct boss at the Minn. Zoo was a vegetarian. I spoke to her about her diet and she informed me about vegetarians vs vegans and some of the hybrid classes that THEY call themselves.
I told her to me they are all simply vegetarians regardless. She actually agreed with me but said be careful who you are talking to because some get to be real Ass---- about what you call them.

[oxbowfarm]

I sell in a college town and I have lots of vegan customers and friends. As a market gardener, the only kinds of customer that are better to have than a vegan is a Raw Foods Vegan or somebody on a juice diet. Do you have any idea how much kale it takes to make a weeks-worth of green smoothies for a juice dieter? That's money in the bank.

I try not to judge people's dietary preferences. Most of the population of the developed world eats much more unhealthy than your typical vegan, when you examine the ingredient labels on their highly processed foods. Is it worse to eat vegan, or to eat batter blaster pancakes topped with pseudo-maple fructose syrup?

[Joseph Lofthouse]

Jan 18, 2018 14:40:31 GMT -5 oxbowfarm said:

Is it worse to eat vegan, or to eat batter blaster pancakes topped with pseudo-maple fructose syrup?

I've known more than a few vegans that are perfectly happy eating batter blaster pancakes topped with pseudo-maple fructose syrup: As long as the ingredients don't come from an animal.

[oxbowfarm]

You have vegans in rural Utah? Thats a place I would have expected them to be rare. We clearly have very different flavor of vegans out East.

[blueadzuki]

Depends on the kind. Forget about blood and bone meal, some I know have a problem with MANURE (they say it isn't fair to deprive animals of their waste and microbes of the right to eat excrement where it falls as opposed to where we want them to.)

But then, there are some I know who have adopted a mentality similar to that I understand is held by some extremely orthodox Jains (that eating ANYTHING is immoral, and one is supposed to starve oneself to literal death.) but more militant (you'd be surprised how many people I know belong to the Church of Euthanasia, and how nervous it gets me that one of these days one will decide that they no longer feel being voluntary is a prerequisite in the process)

[Joseph Lofthouse]

The farmer's market I sell at is in a university town. So that brings me into contact with people and lifestyles that I wouldn't have an opportunity to know otherwise.

I remember what I shock it was to me when I realized that vegans don't have to be healthy-eating, skinny, young college kids. That they can also be morbidly obese old people that eat unhealthy, processed-food, chemical-agriculture diets.

[jondear]

Twinkies and coke are vegan iirc.

A note on juicing, if and when I actually get my market farm going, I'm going to really try to find a juice bar to take some product by off my hands. Seems like a no brainier to be able to unload massive amounts of things at one stop.