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Post by ferdzy on Jan 20, 2018 12:17:14 GMT -5
Nice! And no, that's not a small garden!
But I cannot find a photo of our place that has been updated since we moved here, 10 years ago. All the photos show the place as it was before we bought it.
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Post by walt on Jan 20, 2018 13:59:09 GMT -5
Beautiful place.
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Post by reed on Jan 21, 2018 6:58:58 GMT -5
Here is my place, I pulled it off of google maps. The shaded line is the county road that dead ends at my house, I guess you can't see the gravel cause of the trees, most of which are gone now. West of it is the garden I borrowed for a time from the neighbor, that must be my tomatoes in those little lines in the bottom right corner of it. The old barn and fields to the west are the neighbors. My little garden there south of the drive is about 1/4 of an acre. I have two new gardens now, another 1/4 acre or so north of the drive and a smaller one east of the house.  Land here was also given as land grants in 1 mile x 1 mile sections of 640 acres, 1/2 sections and 1/4 sections. The straight to the compass lines didn't last long here though due to the very hilly landscape. One exception to the section rule was the off compass direction of the Greenville Treaty Line which is my west boundary. Never I believe, nullified by agreement of both parties so I joke that everything west and north of it is still Indian land. East of the house is a little ridge that drops off very steep on both north and south. At the bottom of the south slope is a grove of good sized sugar maple trees, about 150 feet lower in elevation. I have never as of yet made the commitment of hauling sap up that hill but am giving it very serious consideration.
Several thousand acres near and around are mostly abounded as far as farming goes, also the state owns about 3000 acres of hunting preserve. Part of my SHTF strategy is ignoring ownership and seeding the area within walking distance with nut and fruit trees, sunroots, grapes, asparagus, garlic, kiwi and anything else that might have a chance of establishing wild. Besides harvesting myself my hope is it will help support a good population of deer, rabbits and my favorite, turkeys. My real dream however despite all the work I've put in here is that we can find a place over by Lake Monroe, many more thousands of acres of wild and wooded land there, all the same wild game plus lots of fish that you can actually eat and the environment is more healthy there. It is a little more outside the choking clouds that settle over the Ohio valley, a little less subject to the "flash" droughts and about 10 to 15 years lagging on die off of native trees. |
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Post by nathanp on Jan 21, 2018 10:05:52 GMT -5
Here are view of the two places I grow. I am more of a hobby grower than anything, and not a market grower like many others here. This one is where I grow the bulk of what I grow - mostly potatoes, though I dabble in a few others. This location is not my property, and I have the option to use a lot more of this land if I want to, though I don't have time to do so currently. The area at the top left in the rectangle is one of my plots, about 2500 square feet. It is currently laying mostly fallow for a 2nd year, though I will put a few things in there and probably will til about 1/3 of it this year. I grow most of my potatoes in the rectangle on the bottom left, approximately the same size area. Though I likely will rotate out of this area next year.  This is my home garden, of which approximately half is my TPS nursery. It is in partial shade, though the shade is heavier every year since trees tend to grow larger  Eventually, I may have to move this a little to the west to where I have open lawn now. That will probably be when my fence starts to degrade. The total area here is just under 2000ft2.   |
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 13:03:57 GMT -5
So what are the ten white things by the neighbor's old barn? Honeybee hives? Or perhaps a bunch of mash barrels? Runnin' a little 'shine operation in that old barn? Perfect place, revenuers would never know it. Perhaps I should just shut my big mouth. LOL I'm going for round haybales |
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 13:32:11 GMT -5
I'll sit down later and try and get a overhead pic, just got to find a way to remove street name, in my case a dead end gravel road name
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 13:35:19 GMT -5
That would make sense, too big for barrels or hives... Then i was thinking there's gaps between those bales, they are normally stacked with flat sides touching, still its odds on it hay bales though |
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Post by reed on Jan 21, 2018 15:25:46 GMT -5
Yep, round hay bales. Not how we used to do but eliminates throwing square bales on a wagon to haul to the barn. I see the advantage but the claim you don't lose any to rot an mold is bull crap. Not to mention them lacking sense enough to let it dry good before rolling it up.
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Post by richardw on Jan 21, 2018 15:33:46 GMT -5
If rolled well they do shed a lot of rain but there's more wastage with the big rounds though. Handy for the increasing number of soft handed farmers about there today, do any hard manual labour work today and they think you are a lunatic because you're not using some machine
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2018 12:16:38 GMT -5
Lots of web sites out there to get the images, I used this one: showmystreet.com/ and it took one minute. I then took a screen shot of the aerial photo, cut out what I wanted, saved as a JPEG, resized for the web, uploaded the web-ready image to a hosting site, and linked to that uploaded image. All of that took a little more than one minute. LOL Its taking that screen shot i cant seem to do, its right click like all other screen shots i take i take it? All i have is a hand on the screen that only moves the photo around |
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Post by richardw on Jan 22, 2018 12:22:39 GMT -5
toomanyirons For me your aerial photo doesnt come up, dam it. nathanp In your home garden, do the tree roots have much effect
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Post by RpR on Jan 22, 2018 14:49:49 GMT -5
If rolled well they do shed a lot of rain but there's more wastage with the big rounds though. Handy for the increasing number of soft handed farmers about there today, do any hard manual labour work today and they think you are a lunatic because you're not using some machine The , to me, oddity now is, they take the round bales rip them apart and rebale them as standard square bales so they can move them around easier. You can buy a machine that you feed round bales into and it does the rest by itself. I am trying to get a picture but as I do not do stuff on the net unless I have to this is all Greek to me and while I found old shots, cannot post them. |
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Post by RpR on Jan 22, 2018 14:54:50 GMT -5
I tried but it said it was too large and I am out of options.
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Post by rowan on Jan 23, 2018 13:06:01 GMT -5
Here is a Google image of my main farm (I also grow on a few local empty houseblocks. Only half is under cultivation because I just can't do it all myself, but I am slowly expanding and this pic is not up to date.  |
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Post by nathanp on Jan 23, 2018 13:06:21 GMT -5
toomanyirons For me your aerial photo doesnt come up, dam it. nathanp In your home garden, do the tree roots have much effect Yes, mainly it affects water availability for my plants. I move the plants further from the trees each year. I just accept that yields will be lower in general, so I don't usually depend on this garden being highly productive compared to my other plots. Where I have grown the bulk of my potatoes (not my home garden), I can basically draw a line about 50' from some maple trees that essentially is a dividing line between where it isn't even worth growing anything. The maples are the worst. They are shallow rooting plants with highly invasive fibrous roots. Very difficult to keep them out, even with tilling. |
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Eventually, I may have to move this a little to the west to where I have open lawn now. That will probably be when my fence starts to degrade. The total area here is just under 2000ft2. 
