jannel
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Fruit, berry and nut enthousiast in Finland.
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Post by jannel on Jan 6, 2019 14:50:56 GMT -5
Hello everybody, brand new member here coming to you live from Finland (applauds!!)
As most can guess, we live quite north, but thanks to gulf stream it is rather pleasant even, summers there are light around the clock, and on wintertime you can't see the clock from the darkness. On the south side we go down to maybe USDA 5-6 , but of course otherwise climate is quite different. Now I am beginning to trial walnuts here, to see if anything survives, and by that I mean J. regia. But I'd like to try also some heartnuts, since we already have many japanese walnuts here in Finland as ornamentals, and many are producing viable nuts every year plenty. But they are the native round nuts, and not the heart shaped mutations. Whenever a few of us enthousiasts have bought grafted heartnuts from central europe, they usually die. But in there they graft the scions to J. regia, which is from our point of view total insanity, why not use J. ailathifolia, which is the same species as heartnut? My guess is that regia rootstock is readily available there, whereas others are not.
So I'd like to graft cultivars of heartnut to my rootstock, but it seems to be almost impossible to find ANYONE with these plants, and the desire to swap scions, or sell them. Englands orchard sells them from the US, but they haven't answered to me, and their shipping to europe is quite high. What I'd really like, is to have some contacts either on this side of the pond, or there, and make a healthy connection regarding all things orchard. Maybe someone is even in the Northern Nut Growers Association?
Too long, didn't read: I want to find heartnut scions OR plants with other than regia rootstock. As I do wintertime hot callus grafting, it would be nice to find during the winter  . I also like to just talk and hear conversation about them.
Happy new year to everybody Sincerely, Janne
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Post by philagardener on Jan 6, 2019 18:38:09 GMT -5
Welcome, jannel ! Glad to have you join us. I don't grow these but have heard they are great nuts! |
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Post by jocelyn on Jan 7, 2019 5:32:18 GMT -5
Hi Jannel. I'm in Canada and I grow them, on their own roots. Can you receive seednuts from PEI, Canada?
I have no idea what your import regulations are, but know that some countries allow nuts early in the fall
when there is still dormancy and no chance of roots. For Canada, once roots come from nuts, they are nursery stock, rather than seeds, and then need a permit to import. When still dormant, they don't.
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jannel
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Fruit, berry and nut enthousiast in Finland.
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Post by jannel on Jan 7, 2019 9:13:26 GMT -5
Juglans seeds are OK to send officially. Are they from your own trees, from what cultivars were those trees planted? It is imperative that I try to find some very hardy stock that ripens fairly early, that is more important than the size of the nut. Scion wood is allowed to send if phytosanitary certificate is aquired. Officially. Unofficially people smuggle few sticks of this and that from around anywhere, that's why we have so many hardy apples here, some decent folk walked to Russia and back  . I'm not saying that anyone SHOULD send me scions, I'm just saying that the customs will throw them away, if found, and it is my problem here  . As far as I know, Juglans here are ornamental sparsely here and there, and no nut production is occuring here, so any disease that might come from Juglans and spread is very unlikely. And of course I dip the scions in bleach for five minutes, all scions that I get .
So how is the taste of those nuts compared to your local wild ones?
-Janne
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Post by jocelyn on Jan 7, 2019 10:07:15 GMT -5
They are from my own trees. The taste is good, and the size about average.
They are seedling trees, as I have been breeding hardier ones for about 30 years.
If a phyto doesn't cost too much, I can get you one for juglans, I think it's 12 dollars for castanea,
at least, that was the cost a few years ago. Try the seednuts first, so you can see if they winter at your place.
We have warm spells of weather often in the winter and the trees don't wake up, so I think they are long dormancy.
They mature nuts here in Mid October to very early November, depending on how late the spring was.
We normally have 110 to 120 frost free days, at least light frost bracketing that period, so 100 days with no frost at all.
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jannel
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Fruit, berry and nut enthousiast in Finland.
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Post by jannel on Jan 8, 2019 12:53:33 GMT -5
They are from my own trees. The taste is good, and the size about average. They are seedling trees, as I have been breeding hardier ones for about 30 years. If a phyto doesn't cost too much, I can get you one for juglans, I think it's 12 dollars for castanea, at least, that was the cost a few years ago. Try the seednuts first, so you can see if they winter at your place. We have warm spells of weather often in the winter and the trees don't wake up, so I think they are long dormancy. They mature nuts here in Mid October to very early November, depending on how late the spring was. We normally have 110 to 120 frost free days, at least light frost bracketing that period, so 100 days with no frost at all. I'd be happy to buy from you any seeds and scion wood you can muster, if there is any possibility.
I'm not sure when our first frost came, maybe in the end of september or beginning of october, we usually count the days that are on average above 5 Celsius, that is when the growseason begins and ends. First day this year when the average temperature was above 5C was 13 of april, last was 17 of november. But it was insanely long and hot summer also. -Janne
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Post by jocelyn on Jan 9, 2019 12:48:31 GMT -5
We are having a storm right now, so it will be a while till I can dig out your seednuts:)
CFIA will get back to me about the phyto. The rules are different for small amounts, so it might be OK anyway.
Send me your mailing address if you want me to post you some nuts, and maybe scions.
I'm jclarke@pei.sympatico.ca
Nuts and scions will be a gift, but you will have to pay for paperwork and postage. How's that?
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jannel
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Fruit, berry and nut enthousiast in Finland.
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Post by jannel on Jan 10, 2019 9:58:04 GMT -5
We are having a storm right now, so it will be a while till I can dig out your seednuts:) CFIA will get back to me about the phyto. The rules are different for small amounts, so it might be OK anyway. Send me your mailing address if you want me to post you some nuts, and maybe scions. I'm jclarke@pei.sympatico.ca Nuts and scions will be a gift, but you will have to pay for paperwork and postage. How's that? Sounds delightful, hope this works out  ! I'll send you mail. |
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. I also like to just talk and hear conversation about them.
. I'm not saying that anyone SHOULD send me scions, I'm just saying that the customs will throw them away, if found, and it is my problem here 
. As far as I know, Juglans here are ornamental sparsely here and there, and no nut production is occuring here, so any disease that might come from Juglans and spread is very unlikely. And of course I dip the scions in bleach for five minutes, all scions that I get 
! I'll send you mail.