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Post by marjeta on Feb 7, 2009 9:01:07 GMT -5
Hey to all.
Besides my tomato project, I'll also grow plenty of squash and pumpkin varieties (more squash) this year.
I probably have 100+ varieties. I'll post my list when I finish it.
My goal is to focus on the new varieties that I have and try to hand pollinate and/or isolate them so I will be able to have plenty of pure seeds for the next years and also for sharing.
I've realised that I can grow squash on piles of my horses' manure without the horses touching them on the pasture. So I've decided to make more piles around the pasutre (which is quite big). I'll also have a few other places where I'll distribute the varieties: - the garden near the house - the tomato and vegetable garden in the fields - another "garden" in the fields where I grew them last year - my in-laws' garden (they don't use it) - a few other spots using the manure piles (I have 8 horses)
I'm not sure what will I do with my product. A few years ago I've grewn 50+ varieties and had quite a crop. We ate a small part of the crop, but we mostly gave them to our noighbour (at the time) for the pigs. If I make small pieces then my horses eat them. Maybe I should think about selling at least a part of them (so I can cover the expences for the seeds that I bought) but I'm not good at it.
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Post by pugs on Feb 7, 2009 10:47:03 GMT -5
Marjeta,
I'm looking forward to seeing your list. There has been some talk about the oil-seed pumpkins that are getting very hard to find. I think they are hullless seeds. Are you going to be growing some of those?
Pugs
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Post by marjeta on Feb 7, 2009 16:11:58 GMT -5
Hey pugs
We have a slovenian variety that has hulless seeds. It's called Slovenska golica (Slovenian hulless) and is similar to Lady godiva. It is grown for the seeds (to make oil) since the flesh is of low quality. It is also very productive (10+ fruits of 3-5 kilos). 120 days.
I will grow it, of course. I may have some spare seeds if you'd like to grow them this season. More seeds will be available in autumn.
I've started working on my list but I wasn't able to finish it, because I had to leave.
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Post by peapod on Feb 7, 2009 16:19:54 GMT -5
Marjeta, Sounds like a wonderful project that you are embarking on. Our livestock eats all of the imperfect squash and other veggies that I cannot sell at the Market or store for our own consumption.
I have a question for you if I may indulge for a moment. Do you plant the seed directly into the manure? Earlier this season, before the snow flew here, I added about 2000 pounds of horse manure to our garden area. Just shy of an acre. I am hoping that it'll help with a few soil things.
My next items is this... I hope that you at least try to sell at the market. It is a matter of showing up with produce and a smile and thats about it. Personality ,being shy, is a good thing too. You'll attract people to your stand just by the wonderful items you have. The market that I sell at has other sellers that are non-english speaking and shy and they do just fine with their fares. I say go for it!!!!! and see if you can recoup some of your expense.
Good luck.
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Post by marjeta on Feb 8, 2009 5:53:45 GMT -5
Hey peapod Thank you for your advices about selling. In the first week of September there may be a festivity in our village where we (some inhabitants) will be presenting some things, like the livestock, the historical remains, lectures etc. So I thought I could add my tomato and squash exhibition. And maybe sell some tomatoes and the squash that will be ripe at the time. I had good results with sowing the seeds directly in the manure. Of course it should not be very fresh, but at least "made" a little (I don't know how to say that). Otherwise a little soil should be added on top for the seeds, but nothing excessive (just to cover them nicely). The manure is paradise for the squash.
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Post by marjeta on Feb 9, 2009 9:02:17 GMT -5
Those are the squash I'm going to grow this year I'm still expecting some varieties from Iva. (Thanks again) And I also have to add some others. CUCURBITA PEPO: Orange Naked seeds Autumn Wings Autumn Wings Warted Baby boo Bumpkin Delicata Harlequin Harlequin Wannabe Honeyboat delicata Jack be Little Jack o Lantern Lil' Pump Ke Mon Omaha pumpkin Slovenska golica Small sugar Stripetti Sweet dumpling Sweet Dumpling Tonda padana Wee B Little/ Little October Patisson: Custard white patisson Golden marbre patisson Moonbean patisson Patisson orange Patisson sunburst Patisson white Acorn: Carnival Cream of the Crop Royal Acorn Table gold Table king bush acorn Table queen Thelma sanders sweet potato CUCURBITA MOSCHATA: Beung karn Tahiland Buckskin Chirimen Fagtong Sri Muang F1 Fagtong Sri Muang F2 Fagtong thong amphan 346 F1 Flat white boer star 7001 f1 Futsu Black Futsu Black Rinded Futsu kurokawa Hayato Long island cheese Lunga di napoli Musquee de provence Orange Pennsylvania Dutch crookneck Pheonix F2 Shishigatani Squash from Morocco Sucrine du berry Tromba d’Albenga Yuxijanbinggua Butternut: Early Butternut Butternut Butternut avalon F1 Tahitian butternut Violina (Butternut rugosa) CUCURBITA MAXIMA: Ambercup Australian butter Big max Blue Ballet Blue Banana Buen gusto de horno Buttercup Buttercup Delica Galeaux d'eysines Giant lantern Giant squash (Rekord) Golden nugget Green delicious Grey ghost kabocha Hokkaido green Jarrahdale Jaune gros de Paris Jumbo Pink Banana Kabocha tip/Redondo di Tronco Kiszombori Lakota Lumina Marina di Chioggia Moranga exposicao New Zealand Blue Olive One too many Pie pumpkin Queensland blue Quintale Red warty Rouge vif d'etampes Sankt Martin f1 Sibley Squash Mammouth Gold Sri Toong Sweet Grey Sweet Meat Triamble (Tristar) Turk's turban Hubbard: Golden hubbard Baby blue hubbard Blue hubbard large Golden hubbard warted CUCURBITA FICOFOLIA: Courge du Siam LAGENARIA: Longhissima (Long from Sicily) BENINCASA HISPIDA: Wax gourd CUCURBITA ARGYROSPERMA: Cushaw white Tennessee sweet potato I undoubtedly need some more cushaw varieties.
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Post by mostlypurple on Feb 9, 2009 9:54:17 GMT -5
I hope you will be posting pictures as the project progresses ...
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Post by grungy on Feb 9, 2009 10:49:49 GMT -5
Second the motion on pictures, and please remember to save seeds. And yes Michel, before you notice this I am still seed hunting as I must grow as many varieties as I can for the seed bank and to send to all my friends. PS. Found your address again. <smiles>
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Post by flowerpower on Feb 10, 2009 5:30:12 GMT -5
Awesome list! And my neighbours think I have too many pumpkins. lol
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Post by raymondo on Feb 11, 2009 22:26:00 GMT -5
Wow, Marjeta, fantastic list. I grew 8 this season and thought that was a lot!
By the way, I've only seen Tonda padana listed as a maxima. I've never grown it so I don't know for sure.
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Post by marjeta on Feb 12, 2009 3:18:00 GMT -5
Hey Raymondo! Tonda padana is a cucurbita pepo. I've grown it and I like it very much. It has sweet flesh of good quality. I reccomend it. Yesterday I've used Orange (a butternut type that I got from Iva a few years ago) to make a vegetable soup. It's such a cool squash too. As all butternut type squash it's easy to peel and use. It has a beautifull orange flesh, that smells like fruit (when it's raw) and when you taste it (still raw) it's like carrots. You can make a nice salad if you use some carrots and some Orange. Cooked is very sweet and good. I'll add it to my favourite "raw-eaten" squash Delicata. Grungy, don't worry, I'll save an abboundance of seeds. Flowerpower...how many pumpkins do you have? Is here anyone that grows big size pumpkins (like atlantic giant & similar)?
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Post by iva on Feb 12, 2009 4:24:05 GMT -5
Marjeta, I also think that Tonda Padana is a maxima. I have an original bag that says maxima on it. You also said you don't know where to fit Yuxijanbinggua. It is a moschata.
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Post by marjeta on Feb 12, 2009 6:24:40 GMT -5
Hmmm... Thanks for the Yuxijanbinggua. I usually don't rely on the bags...since they usually have some huge mistakes. I was just checking if I have an original Tonda padana packet, but instead I found one of Courge du Siam and it stated that it's a cucurbita maxima. No comment. I run in a lot of varieties that are classified wrongly (on the packets), and they're usually put in the maxima group. If you type in google "Tonda padana cucurbita" you'll find it in almost all possible groups - maxima, moschata, pepo... I still think it's a pepo. The seeds look like that. But I'm open for new possibilities. Iva is a holticuralist and I shouldn't argue with her.
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Post by flowerpower on Feb 12, 2009 6:54:32 GMT -5
I love winter squash. But I really like having my own pumpkin patch for Jack O Lanterns. lol Lots of my friends have kids, so I try to grow a nice sized pumpkin for each one. Plus I am really fond of all the small ornamental gourds for decorations. I think I am going to be using other people's gardens too. lol
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Post by bunkie on Feb 12, 2009 9:26:31 GMT -5
....We have a slovenian variety that has hulless seeds. It's called Slovenska golica (Slovenian hulless) and is similar to Lady godiva. It is grown for the seeds (to make oil) since the flesh is of low quality. It is also very productive (10+ fruits of 3-5 kilos). 120 days. I will grow it, of course. I may have some spare seeds if you'd like to grow them this season. More seeds will be available in autumn............. great list marjeta! i am interested in the variety you mentioned above that has the hulless seeds. how is the flesh of this variety? is it edible?
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