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Post by Alan on Jul 26, 2008 21:46:17 GMT -5
Definetly still interested in seeds Papa Vic, looking forward to it, thought I'm not sure why, I suppose curiosity sake and maybe some breeding work. It will definetly be interesting to work with I'm sure!
Any updates?
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Post by kctomato on Jul 27, 2008 14:12:53 GMT -5
critters LOVE them
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Post by mybighair on Aug 3, 2008 6:35:10 GMT -5
If anyone has spare seed available I'd love to try blue tomatoes here in the UK. I love novelty in my veg and could have some fun breeding with these things.
They would also confuse the hell out of the other plot holders on the allotment, so yet more entertainment value.
Will happily cover postage.
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Post by flowerpower on Aug 4, 2008 5:22:29 GMT -5
What part of the UK are you in. I have extended family in Manchester and in Ireland. None of them garden. We'll get you some cool varieites for your plot. Alan or someone else might have seeds for a white variety in the fall. That would definitely be different.
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Post by mybighair on Aug 5, 2008 5:27:56 GMT -5
Hi flowerpower,
I'm in the South Wales valleys.
White could be interesting, if I grow some red and green ones I could make a Welsh flag out of tomatoes.
Not that I can see myself doing it, but I could if the inclination ever took me.
I have some pretty weird and wonderful things growing already by most peoples standards (people in the UK that is). It really seems to annoy some of the older gardeners, the fact that I practice zero tillage and companion planting only ads to the fury.
I don't think it helps that other plot holders are adopting my oddities.
Some are so offended that I don't plant F1 hybrids in nice strait rows that they want me out. I cant for the life of me figure out why it bothers them so much, but I take pleasure in annoying people that are so closed minded (I know I shouldn't, but i just cant help myself).
So feel free to send your strangest, and help fan the flames.
Only in Wales could growing veg become a hotbed of intrigue and controversy.
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Post by flowerpower on Aug 5, 2008 21:19:34 GMT -5
We'll have to make sure you get some striped maters. Oh, and Fuzzy Peach is a pretty strange one too. Have you grown out any potato leaf varietes yet? How big is your allotment?
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Post by mybighair on Aug 7, 2008 14:05:04 GMT -5
No on the potato leaf, I don't have a great deal of space for tom's so haven't tried that many varieties yet.
The plot is about 24x60ft, but Welsh weather isn't the best for out door tom production, so they fight for space with the cucumbers, aubergines and melons in two 5x8 greenhouses.
Between the rose breeding, brassica, pea and corn projects, the poultry, perennial veg and herbs I would struggle to find space for growing tom's outside anyway.
I already need to take on another half plot to grow out the corn, melon and brassica crosses next year. much to the disapproval of the malcontents.
But I could probably grow one plant of about four varieties and still have space for growing out the "Centiflor-Yellow"X"Purple Russian" seed.
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Post by kctomato on Aug 22, 2008 12:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by stratcat on Aug 22, 2008 13:57:54 GMT -5
Awesome!!!!! ;D
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Post by Jim on Aug 22, 2008 14:57:27 GMT -5
I need to grow that tomato next year. My grandma will freak out.
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Post by Alan on Aug 24, 2008 21:06:06 GMT -5
Very nice color. If I never use it for anything else I would definetly like to use that for breeding and maybe even for landscape specimens.
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Post by tatermater on Aug 25, 2008 0:19:08 GMT -5
For what it is worth, I have fruits developing in which the blue tomato is a male parent. The plant itself for me is not good for here.
I am going to make more crosses in the greenhouse now that it is too late to make outdoor crosses.
Some day I will have to find all of my documents regarding the high anthocyanin tomato lines and how I will have to look at the recombinants, hybrids, etc., and how the color will manifest itself with green flesh, stripes, orange, pink, red, bicolors, browns, blacks.
I put stuff on word documents and never get around to editing my notes. The blue tomato is but one of those things I seem to never get around to fully writing about. It is obvious that one will have to make a good number of breeding schemes to get over some hurdles.
In the Green Zebra descent lines, one true breeding line that is dark green and pink striped, turning brown black on maturity is one of my candidates for breeding blue pedigrees to next year. I think the blue on pink and green turning blackish blue on the shoulders would be a riot.
Tom Wagner
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2008 6:27:48 GMT -5
sounds cool Tom.
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Post by PapaVic on Aug 25, 2008 10:42:43 GMT -5
There you go, Alan. See if you can get some seeds from Wagner. Then I'll trade you for some of mine and we can share and compare results next year.
Bill
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Post by Alan on Aug 28, 2008 20:38:55 GMT -5
What do you say Tom? Interested in having a growout of some of the blue material. I'd love to grow some of it myself. Oh, the potatoes you sent have done great. I'll be growing all the TPS next spring!
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