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Post by canadamike on Feb 20, 2010 4:22:37 GMT -5
Here is the list of the naked seeded squash that will be trialed. Some of them are not fully naked seeded but have a variable percentage of naked seeds.Ialso received some that are not naked seeded at all.
Covered with a very thin whitish film will be W Pure Green , totally naked will be T Some seeds naked in the lot will be P
PI 615086, W PI 615102 NAKED SEED W PI 364241 HAJATLAN MAGN T PI 615133 GLAISDORFER OLKURBIS T PI 368594 ZOLTA P PI 379309 VOLOVSKA P PI 364240 GRIBOVSKAJA 14 W PI 406679 P PI 379322 GOTVARSKA P PI 615104 PROSTATE T PI420329 TURKEY NO 2 W PI406678 W PI311741 PULAWSKA T PI267660 GREEN LONG NO 1 P PI267661 GREEN LONG NO 2 W PI267662 GREEN STRIPE T PI267664 YELLOW LONG T PI420330 TURKEY NO 3 P PI420331 TURKEY NO 4 P PI490278 BUTTERBALL P PI506441 T
11 of the received accessions had totally normal seeds, so I will not bother trialing them for naked seeds, although I will grow many that seem quite interesting.
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Post by canadamike on Feb 20, 2010 8:01:54 GMT -5
Could somebody that has some seeds of Lady Godiva be kind to me please??? It feelsakward not to have it here, and ifthere are some others, I would like it too... And if anybody needs some naked seeds, I guess you know where to go
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Post by mjc on Feb 20, 2010 8:28:18 GMT -5
I can send you a few...
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Post by Hristo on Feb 20, 2010 13:27:44 GMT -5
I only have the well know Styrian and Hamlet which is Ukrainian semi-bush (vine is less than 1 m.)
I'm just curious among these varieties is there some extra large naked seeds? Also I do remember I have seen on some site totaly white (no green skin) naked seeds. Do you have such? I'm just asking do not want seeds.
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Post by grunt on Feb 20, 2010 15:36:36 GMT -5
Michel: I have Slovenska Golica, and will throw some in your packet.
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Post by canadamike on Feb 20, 2010 15:40:49 GMT -5
Yes, there are many extra large seeds. There is one accessions that has white seeds almost only, then there are a few that have seeds either white or green. The white seeds tend to be on the small side of the scope.
Of course, I have no clue if it is due to variability in the strain or if you find them both in the same squash.
I am wondering of the nutritive value of the oil of white seeds in comparison to the green.
I have grown gazillions of pepo in my life, but never for oil. I googled a homemade oil press on the net, made with a small run of the mill ordinary car jack. I'll make one this summer. I want to make my sunflower oil too. Now that I will LIVE on a farm, I really want to do these things myself.
I have been going through personnal hardships these last months and value more than ever the wiseness of self sufficiency, preserving your own organic food and doing everything you can yourself.
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Post by steveont on Feb 20, 2010 15:43:03 GMT -5
Yes, there are many extra large seeds. There is one accessions that has white seeds almost only, then there are a few that have seeds either white or green. The white seeds tend to be on the small side of the scope. Of course, I have no clue if it is due to variability in the strain or if you find them both in the same squash. I am wondering of the nutritive value of the oil of white seeds in comparison to the green. I have grown gazillions of pepo in my life, but never for oil. I googled a homemade oil press on the net, made with a small run of the mill ordinary car jack. I'll make one this summer. I want to make my sunflower oil too. Now that I will LIVE on a farm, I really want to do these things myself. I have been going through personnal hardships these last months and value more than ever the wiseness of self sufficiency, preserving your own organic food and doing everything you can yourself. hold the oil thought there michel! may have more info on a local oil pressing out fit soon!
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Post by canadamike on Feb 20, 2010 16:06:00 GMT -5
Ah! The joy of having local buddies that are as fanatic as you !!!!
And Dan, thanks a lot, I guess we were writing at the same time, I had not seen your post.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Feb 20, 2010 16:44:51 GMT -5
It's interesting that you mention oil and making your own. I agree with you 100%. It should definitely be part of a self sufficiency regimen. But I don't see where many people consider it. What about oil from your grape seeds? Are you going to try to crush and press them as well? Grape seed oil is extremely high in nutritional value. I'm not positive, but I think that I have even seen it listed as a "super food".
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Post by canadamike on Feb 20, 2010 18:44:59 GMT -5
I don't have enough grape to get in the oil thing yet, it will still take many years. I don't feel like collecting all the spitters just now for a quarter liter of oil But eventually I will. I always have a bottle of grape seed oil here, I love to cook with it...
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Post by bunkie on Feb 21, 2010 9:41:41 GMT -5
keep us informed about the oil press michel and steve.
we want to make one too. we had two olive trees, lost one last year, in containers. i learned they prefer the cold and not hot during the winter months. i am hoping to make our own olive oil eventually.
i'd like to try the sunflower and naked pumpkin seeds for oil too, as you mentioned michel. i still have frank's naked seed squash to plant this year. he never mentioned how it tasted, did he?! ;D but i think the seed was good for eating and oil...
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Post by canadamike on Feb 23, 2010 0:27:33 GMT -5
I'll be glad to report on the squash Bunkie, plus you'll have some to trial yourself...you could have asked for more anyway, I'll do the trials, so selection will be more performant next year... Be advised that oil sunflowers ( the little black kind we feed to the birds) are much more productive for oil than the regular large edible ones....I'll McGyver an oil press out of an hydaulic car jack in a cylinder that will have been pierced a lot ! Plans are on the net, just google a bit.
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Post by bunkie on Feb 26, 2010 11:50:42 GMT -5
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Post by mjc on Feb 26, 2010 12:08:55 GMT -5
Nice find Bunkie...I'm sure that press can be used for more than just sunflower seeds.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Feb 26, 2010 13:31:21 GMT -5
The old fashioned stone presses worked by grinding the material into a paste, spreading it out on felt pads, stacking the pads, then squishing the daylights out of them. The pads act as primary filters so, cold pressed. Applying heat will degrade the flavor a bit though I don't have a clue how much.
When you are using something like olives, you crush the entire fruit, so what is left behind can then be animal feed or compost. However, if you are using nuts, the paste residue could be used as flour, marzipan, or other confectionery items. The felt pads are also washable.
I'm wondering if you couldn't get a stone a couple feet wide (more or less) and make that sort of screw down press just as easily? Making pads that size would be a snap, you could just knit them up and felt them. They would cost maybe $10 for materials and 5 hours labor to produce a single pad, but it would be infinitely reusable. You could even boil them to eliminate flavors and other residues.
Michel, I've never been able to afford grape seed oil, what kind of flavor does it have? I use olive oil, nothing beats the fragrance of onions gently frying in olive oil... ::sigh::
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