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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 20, 2012 12:39:24 GMT -5
Now, I've got that song stuck in my head. Now Eric Clapton and Don Williams will have to "two step" out to the weeds with me.
Yes, only March and I'm in the weeds.
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Post by raymondo on Mar 20, 2012 13:37:38 GMT -5
That's a bucketload of rain David. Hope your corn makes it through the deluge.
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Post by davida on Mar 20, 2012 15:06:01 GMT -5
That's a bucketload of rain David. Hope your corn makes it through the deluge. Thanks, Ray. I hope all of the corn makes it but even if a few ears develop, we have a great starting point for the future. Texas and Oklahoma have been in a drought so the rains were welcomed. One lake about 40 miles north was 15 feet below normal. David
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 20, 2012 15:55:00 GMT -5
Sheesh... You flat-landers... You warm-climate folks.... That's one of the fun things about this group: Seeing how different things are in different gardens. We don't get 5" of rain out here in our whole growing season all put together, but if we did, it would run-off into the bottom-lands immediately. And our lakes routinely drop several hundred feet in elevation during the 3 month irrigation season. And it's still snowing here. And our last expected spring frost is still more than 2 months from now.
Be interesting to see if Frosty should have been called Swampy.
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Post by davida on Mar 20, 2012 21:11:44 GMT -5
Now, I've got that song stuck in my head. Now Eric Clapton and Don Williams will have to "two step" out to the weeds with me. Holly, When you get "Living on Tulsa Time" out of your head, try a little "Take Me Back to Tulsa (I'm to young to marry)" by the legendary Bob Wills. David
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Post by davida on Mar 20, 2012 21:42:39 GMT -5
Sheesh... You flat-landers... You warm-climate folks.... That's one of the fun things about this group: Seeing how different things are in different gardens. We don't get 5" of rain out here in our whole growing season all put together, but if we did, it would run-off into the bottom-lands immediately. And our lakes routinely drop several hundred feet in elevation during the 3 month irrigation season. And it's still snowing here. And our last expected spring frost is still more than 2 months from now. Be interesting to see if Frosty should have been called Swampy. Joseph, Hope you are doing well. I'm really enjoying the Frosty/Swampy corn trial. Our average rainfall for the month of March is 3.2 inches so the 5.5 inches in 24 hours is not normal and created alot of flash flooding. The lake that I mentioned being 15 feet below normal is Skiatook Lake that covers 10,500 acres. The maximum depth is 80 feet and the average depth is 31 feet!!! So lakes are also very different in our areas. Take care, David
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Mar 20, 2012 22:41:15 GMT -5
That much missing water would supply my village, two nearby towns, and another village with enough irrigation water for 5 years.
I'm feeling better thanks. I've been down with bronchitis for about 10 days. Still having terrible coughing fits a couple times a day, but I'm up and moving around so that feels great: The euphoria of having survived a rough time. I'd have planted peas, and lettuce between blizzards already if I had felt better. No rush yet, things don't grow much this time of year, it's just nice to plant a little bit at a time rather than in one mad rush.
I'm hoping that I'll take and post a picture of the Egyptian onions soon... I have already started harvesting them for a bit of flavor in salads.
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Post by davida on Apr 12, 2012 11:35:52 GMT -5
Be interesting to see if Frosty should have been called Swampy. As an update, after planting Joseph's Frosty corn and an adjoining small patch of AD corn on 7MAR12 and after germination on 19MAR12, we received 6" of rain in 24 hours on 20MAR12. All the corn flooded and some of both varieties stood under water for a couple of days. It is interesting that 90% of the Frosty corn survived and 90% of the AD corn did not survive. Our spring weather has been extremely warm so we really have trialed the frost resistance of Frosty but definitely trialed the flood resistance. Definitely impressed by Frosty. David
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 12, 2012 17:12:31 GMT -5
As an update, after planting Joseph's Frosty corn and an adjoining small patch of AD corn on 7MAR12 and after germination on 19MAR12, we received 6" of rain in 24 hours on 20MAR12. All the corn flooded and some of both varieties stood under water for a couple of days. It is interesting that 90% of the Frosty corn survived and 90% of the AD corn did not survive. Our spring weather has been extremely warm so we really have trialed the frost resistance of Frosty but definitely trialed the flood resistance. Definitely impressed by Frosty. That's an awesome story. See this is why i love all this landrace breeding stuff. What one trait does for one farmer seems to do something else for another. And there seems to always be something for everyone.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Apr 12, 2012 20:01:17 GMT -5
It is interesting that 90% of the Frosty corn survived and 90% of the AD corn did not survive. Thanks for sharing. You've discovered a secret about my seed... To insure biodiversity, and for great color balance, I blend seeds from my selective breeding programs into the outgoing Astronomy Domine seed. One of the components of the blend this year was 6% Frosty sweet corn... So in both cases Frosty was likely the survivor... Astronomy Domine was one of the ancestors of Frosty, so it's possible that some of the non-Frosty survivors may also be first cousins to Frosty. Today I finally finished processing the last cobs of seed corn... It was the cherry flavored sweet corn. I had 9 cobs (true to type) that can be planted ear-to-row next spring, and I'm intending to self some of them, so it's looking good that I'll be able to add 5% cherry flavored sweet corn to Astronomy Domine next growing season. The other added components this year were 6% gray aleurone, 6% orange pericarp, 6% white, and 12% ~homozygous se+.
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Post by steev on Apr 12, 2012 20:54:17 GMT -5
Joseph, I do hope you keep me in mind when you're ready to let your cherry-corn out of the nest.
Just so you keep that in mind, I'll be going to Baja Sur to my brother's place this June and intend to keep an eye out for local corn, beans, what-have-you. No, I won't be going by that pot plantation that was discussed in an earlier thread, if only because we all know it was utterly, totally, unequivacally eradicated and completely incinerated by those two soldiers we saw in the photos.
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 12, 2012 21:04:35 GMT -5
Steev, send me a bag...of beans....
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Post by benboo on Apr 13, 2012 8:33:51 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see how long frosty/swampy could survive on soil that is continuously soggy.
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Post by DarJones on Apr 13, 2012 11:49:57 GMT -5
Re swampy ground, look up "aerenchyma" in corn and near relatives.
DarJones
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Post by darwinslair on Apr 13, 2012 16:13:16 GMT -5
on the frosty part of the thread:
On march 24th I planted Grunt's Dark Autumn Delight popcorn. As of yesterday it was 2" tall and looking fine. 3 hard freezes since it emerged, and no obvious damage to the emerging leaves.
Tom
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