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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 29, 2020 17:28:55 GMT -5
i hope they are mostly what you are after! Yeah. As they stand now they have really good red color. But they have no flavor. If i can get the color AND the flavor I'll be set. And if i can get hyper-tendrils (aka: semi-leafless) along the way then that is a bonus!
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 29, 2020 5:55:47 GMT -5
For those of you who haven't migrated to the OSSI forum, I'll post my update over here too.
I just planted all my red podded peas "Rebsie style" in some root trainers. I'm proceeding with my plan to cull those that don't have hyper-tendrils, which is why I am starting them all in root trainers as the hyper-tendril trait is very apparent even in the early seedling stage.
Then I can proceed with plan #2 and cross them with Midnight Snow for an improved red-podded pea in the F2 generation.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Feb 11, 2020 7:51:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I forget who I sent seeds to once in England, but I grew them here in Colorado, USA and they were dwarf about 2ft tall I think. In England the exact same seeds grew 3-4ft if i remember correctly. So climate and epigenetics change height to some degree.
But a tall pea will generally still be tall and a short pea will still be shorter than a tall variety.
Many of my peas grow 6-7ft tall. So get yourself a trellis or 10!
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Feb 4, 2020 7:35:04 GMT -5
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Feb 2, 2020 17:59:26 GMT -5
Hi xdrix, Can you give us some more photos and context as to where you found these seeds? They really could be any variety. The pink one in the middle, and the redish-brown in the bottom left are not that common for pea seed coat colors. But even then it would be hard to identify based on seed. p.s., what part of the world are you hailing from?
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 20, 2020 23:48:35 GMT -5
Maybe a back-cross to watermelon might help. "All" you need is 40 acres to screen for good things! Haha, well I guess I better send you some seed then for your 40 acres
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 20, 2020 11:39:50 GMT -5
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 20, 2020 11:38:03 GMT -5
i'm glad you bumped this thread Dewdrop keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) if you have a good supply of any peas you find well worth growing and distributing around (especially if you are the only one with them) i will gladly adopt some and spread them around here. i have a seed swap coming up the end of February and will gladly take any or all seeds you can send me for my own use but also to gift out to others. credit given to you for sure! Sure, I'm always sharing seeds, especially peas. Let me know where you are at in the world and send me a pm here or on OSSI. I've already tried sharing some of those with others like purple passion (deep purple seeds) and Midnight Snow, but I haven't heard if anyone I sent them to is actively growing or keeping them.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 19, 2020 23:36:48 GMT -5
Those are looking good! How was the taste test? The taste test on these was actually bland with only one having any hint of sweetness. But I'm confident better tasting genetics are still in the overall population. It just needs me and others to grow out enough generations to find the good recombinant offspring and save seed from them.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 19, 2020 13:33:37 GMT -5
I hope you succeed in whatever way works. Air layering is something I want to learn to be successful at. I tried designing my own 3d printed device for it, but it was a flop the first try. I found a grafting thing at school. I will try to link the image...
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 19, 2020 11:06:41 GMT -5
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 13, 2020 8:09:28 GMT -5
Keen101 - could be. From 5 F1 plants I got three viable (large for x fulvum) seeds and about 5 smaller non viable seeds all black in color. From the three F2 plants that germinated last year - one had a weird chlorophyll defect which it eventually outgrew. One plant is still growing and producing pods albeit slowly. I haven’t looked at the seeds of all the pods yet, but viability is better this generation. I might have 40 or 50 f3 plants to go on with. Ok cool. I will probably grow these out just to find out. But let me know how your progress goes. P. fulvum has some very interesting traits im interested in. I really want that orange-ish flower color and I think one report said they might have a purple striping gene. Joseph definitley wants them for pest resistance. If you ever have more pure p. fulvum seed and/or hybrid seed to share I would be interested. I should also check that spot this year just in case any seeds germinate a year late. (I can't remember how many seed coats I nicked, but I could have sworn I had the whole row germinate.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 12, 2020 18:12:47 GMT -5
One of my favorites is a small yellow cherry tomato that is mislabeled as Solanum cheesmaniae from Terrior Seeds. It is a hybrid. But it is awesome. You sent me that last year and I grew it in 2019. It is really good. Wish we could afford and or find someone to have it genetically tested to find out if it has any cheesemaniae in it. It is a good tasting and very early yellow cherry. I'd like to include it in a test grow of my dozen or so earliest to see where it ranks. I saved seed, but not sure its a must grow out for 2020. If I do I'll probably plant no more than 4 seeds. You also sent me the real cheesemaniae which is very different, much smaller, much later, and less tasty. At least the accession I grew out. Cheesmaniae does have a lot of variation in the genome, but pure cheesmaniae is very different fruit wise. The plant leaves and sprawling growth habit totally line up from what I can tell. Terrior seeds refuses to publish my 5 star positive reviews because I know it's a hybrid. The person who collected it for them claims it was collected direct from the Galapagos islands. I dont doubt it has half ancestry, but they have a history of domestics contaminating the wild ones a lot.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 12, 2020 11:09:19 GMT -5
One of my favorites is a small yellow cherry tomato that is mislabeled as Solanum cheesmaniae from Terrior Seeds. It is a hybrid. But it is awesome.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Jan 12, 2020 11:07:44 GMT -5
This is a very real thing.
Open source makes no difference if the source seed cannot be located from multiple places.
I have tried to get rare seed from many people in the past only to assume that they got old and the seed was lost. I've been considering becoming a temporary member of the seed savers exchange to see what I can find that is rare.
I would like to grow "hopi black" squash again. But even the woman in Canada who was the main steward of it no longer grows it.
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