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Post by atash on Jul 26, 2011 13:05:36 GMT -5
Mike, I have a small batch, not much grain to show for it but should have a significant harvest next year. However it has been hit-and-miss with these things. They come from various sources, still need to be evaluated for usefulness. Most of them probably low in gluten; if so make pastries and/or porridge out of them.
The good news is that Tim Peters is likely to resume his work on grains fairly imminently. I don't have a separate newsletter set up yet but I could set one up for people interested in latest developments.
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Post by spacecase0 on Jul 27, 2011 10:49:54 GMT -5
I have perennial sorghum growing this year, it is not doing nearly as well as the annual one I grew last year, but it may do better the second year, I guess it takes a few years to figure out
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Post by atash on Jul 27, 2011 11:48:59 GMT -5
Spacecase, could it be because of the cold spring weather on the west coast this year, that was worse than last year's?
I'm growing both annual and perennial sorghums, and all the perennials are more vigorous, and blooming earlier than any of the annuals, including one unidentified variety known only as "early white dwarf". Having a devil of a time getting one of my most valuable annual types to bloom; might have to jury-rig a cover over it to keep it warm. Right now temperatures have fallen back to below seasonal norms again.
It might make a difference the specific perennial sorghums in question; mine are all Tim Peters', bred in southern Oregon. I don't know if you have those, or other varieties.
He says the 2nd year the survivors shoot up early, bloom, and ripen earlier than the first year.
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Post by MikeH on Jul 27, 2011 13:01:46 GMT -5
Mike, I have a small batch, Excellent. I've pm'ed you. Mike
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Post by bunkie on Jul 27, 2011 20:22:15 GMT -5
...The good news is that Tim Peters is likely to resume his work on grains fairly imminently. I don't have a separate newsletter set up yet but I could set one up for people interested in latest developments. i'm very interested atash! i have to get out and take some pics of our perennial rye trials. i also had some old perennial wheat from Boutiful Gardens who i think they got from tim, that i planted last year. the rye's way way way over my head (i'm 5'7") and the wheat's looking really full and beautiful thius year. whether it'll come back next year is the question. no matter, i'll save seeds from those that return and plant them next year. we've had a lot of wet weather and cold this spring, so will be curious to see if the ergot is back. mike, will send you thep/ wheat seed next week.
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Post by MikeH on Jul 28, 2011 17:40:30 GMT -5
mike, will send you thep/ wheat seed next week. Thank you. I will let you know when it arrives. Regards, Mike
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Post by MikeH on Jan 26, 2012 7:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by turtleheart on Jan 26, 2012 11:43:06 GMT -5
beach pea. sunroot. ground nut. oak. maple. chestnut. walnut. wild perennial staple and grain producing plants.
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Post by turtleheart on Jan 26, 2012 11:43:30 GMT -5
REDBUD
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Post by benboo on Jan 26, 2012 22:13:54 GMT -5
Hello, If anyone here has some seeds to share, I would be interested in adapting them to my region. Please send me a message.
Thanks
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Post by rammstein on Feb 4, 2012 15:02:09 GMT -5
how'd i miss this thread???! we purchased a couple packs of perennial wheat from peters seed research and Mountaineer perennial rye from Bountiful Gardens this spring and planted them. i started them in the greenhouse and after the late June snow and cold we had (which is very unusual), i put them in the ground. really big healthy plants and very rootbound, tho they transplanted pretty easily and took off right away. both plants were like little grass bushes. later in the season, the stalks formed with beards. i finished harvesting them a week or so ago and they're drying now. the wheat was extremely productive but the rye wasn't so much. we're going to save most of the seed to extend the patches next year and will grind some to see how we like it. i love the fact it's sown once and produces every year! here's a couple pics.... perennial wheat.......... www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=27615PDlUo&i=172185wheat closeup...see how it grows like a clump of grass then shoots up stalks with the seed on it...the perennial rye does the same thing but is a shade of blue. both are beautiful...... www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=27615PDlUo&i=172186perennial rye... www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=27615PDlUo&i=167819www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=27615PDlUo&i=172167ottawagardener, we also grew other grains like sorghum, northern sugarcane, and hulless barley. someone told me that sorghum flour (from the seeds) is really expensive (like 7 bucks a pound!) and is gluten free! i am going to grind some and see how we like it. i think mixed with the wheat and rye, it would make a lighter dough. also am going to try a barley flour! there's no end to the fun here!!! the sorghum we planted wasn't the sugar/syrup type. next year we will try that kind and try the juice. and, even tho it's late, i'm going to try juicing the sugarcane. the stalks are still very thick and green inside. black amber sorghum... www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=27615PDlUo&i=158139hulless barley... www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=1512HsPBM&i=156141 northern sugarcane and barley www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=1512HsPBM&i=156139 northern sugarcane, barley, sorghum...sorghum's starting to head (a couple).... www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic.php?u=1512HsPBM&i=156140 I'd like very much this sorghum.
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Post by cortona on Feb 14, 2012 16:57:55 GMT -5
guys, anyone have some news about Tim's work on breeding perennial cerals? news on wath is of the ruors about Tim restarting is work with the economic help of us crazy grower? every news are welcome! really welcome!
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Post by 12540dumont on Feb 14, 2012 19:44:53 GMT -5
Cortona, you and I think of the same things all the time.
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Post by cortona on Feb 15, 2012 12:24:09 GMT -5
are you so surprised? ;-) i think that here i have lots of friends an one are you, so.... :-)))))))
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Post by MikeH on Feb 18, 2012 2:47:20 GMT -5
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