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Post by canadamike on Jul 6, 2009 1:18:22 GMT -5
OUPS, one seed freak from Michigan plus 2 seeds freaks from BC equals '' HEY, THE MCMURRAYS.... BUY 2 MORE FREEZERS''  Of course, you could buy only one...a walk in one  ;D |
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Post by grungy on Jul 6, 2009 2:13:24 GMT -5
That's alright, Michel. That is exactly what I have been trying to tell him. (The one whom must be obeyed! And if you believe that then I have a wonderful place to build a hotel in the Florida Everglades.)
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Post by grungy on Jul 6, 2009 2:15:06 GMT -5
Michel, what happen to the seed freak in eastern Ontario? Say like around Rockland? Are you mad at us?
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Post by americangardener on Jul 6, 2009 7:49:56 GMT -5
Ok Dan.. i have one voulenteer who wants to send back some seeds. Three varieties.. The Miracle BPF, Dwarf Champion and Golden dwarf champion i believe. Anyways.. i can't use em right now. I asked for 30 seeds and that's all i need to grow more. Now, i did ask.. so i told him to just send those to your seedbank. You can do with em whatever you want.. just save me a few for future years.
Dave
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Post by flowerpower on Jul 7, 2009 5:20:47 GMT -5
I meant to ask in the other thread. But what does "BPF" stand for?
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Post by americangardener on Jul 7, 2009 23:59:30 GMT -5
OH geeze.. i'll have to go get that info out of another forumn..
If you have access to Tville there's a discussion about it. I can't get in.. they banned me or something. Any time i log in i go to some online fabric store. why.. don't care.. just know i don't use tville anymore and that's where the info is.
Dave
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Post by grunt on Jul 8, 2009 2:35:13 GMT -5
Short answer to what BPF stands for is no one knows for sure. Could be named after an Italian bank, or after an Italian families initials. If you google "the Miracle BPF" you will get to the threads that Dave was talking about, and see that they really don't know for sure
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Post by flowerpower on Jul 8, 2009 6:15:02 GMT -5
OK, thanks. I thought it might be some tomato term I was unfamiliar with.
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Post by americangardener on Jul 8, 2009 8:31:39 GMT -5
Yeah.. what do you all think of my newest business venture? The one i have advertised in the trading bazar over at idig? I think i could find a hundred ways to turn a profit from doing other peoples fermenting for them. Even charge for it if they wanted em sterilized with bleach like ted does. I know it helps to kill off pathogens.. but i think i do just as good with the hot water treatment as he does with the bleach. Could be wrong.. but my way is easier.
Anyways.. i'm still thinking bout how i can tie this in with the Mission of making every variety of open pollinated seed available to everyone in the world. Simpliest way is to just get those people who have a tomato in their hands to save the seeds and send em to ten other people.. but .. i'll figure it out later. What would be a fair price for doing the bleach though? I hate it.. so i'm thinking an extra dollar per ziploc done. It really wouldn't be but a few minutes extra of my time.. just one more step in the process.. but it's still a hassle.
Oh well<<< Any thoughts on that one?
Dave
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Post by americangardener on Jul 8, 2009 8:43:14 GMT -5
Jo.. if you're reading.. just wanted to ask a few things.. i have all my pictures saved on a memory stick.. what i'm thinking is i could mail it to someone who helps on the website. It holds 3000 some pictures. I only have like 3-400 on there now.. but when i fill it up. So, just wondering.. good idea or bad? I need a second opinion.
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Post by americangardener on Jul 8, 2009 9:00:43 GMT -5
Jo... got a project i'd like some help with. I want a label template made up with the company name on it. Then some fill in the blank spots for different descriptions i want noted. Place for the date.. a persons return address and email.. for them to fill out. And i want it all to fit into the size of a folded piece of copy paper when it's folded in eights. It would help me tremendously if it were 8 to a page. Front and back sides can be used.. but make it so that when folded in half the name of the variety shows thru the outside of a ziploc baggie.
Can you do that for me?
Dave
PS.. nix this idea.. it'd have to be waterproof for my purposes. The label goes with the seeds every step of the process when i ferment them. It has to be able to sit in a baggie full of tomato juice for up to a week without bleeding out. Oh well.. can' you do something to fix it so i can use it?
Dave
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Post by americangardener on Jul 8, 2009 9:35:21 GMT -5
Ok.. this one i'm just gonna throw out for anyone to catch... i'm thinking bout that needing some other products to sell. Who wants to work on some product research for me?
What i want is someone to test the Japanese beetle trap recipe that Durgan uses over at idig. See if it's bottleable. If it is i want to know concentrated we can make it and how dilute it can be to be effective. That kind of stuff. I haven't talked with Durgan bout it cause qute frankly i don't bout it yet. If it is marketable though i'll ask him first if he wants to make it or just let me do it. After all you can't patent vinegar and sugar can ya? I'm not worried bout patents.. i just want to have a product line that i can make a huge markup off of. That to me would be it. People pay for convience... even if they can make it theirselfs.
Dave
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Post by americangardener on Jul 8, 2009 10:24:02 GMT -5
Ok Jo.. back to you.. here's what i want in semi bold print somewhere on the front of the label. Remember it's only a half of an eight piece that will show thru the front of the envelope. I want the line: fermented by "UNIQUE SEEDBANK INC" then under that.. "the week of ______ 2009. http://www.  ?? Germination tested ___ @ % Grown by: addres line one-------- line two-------- etc.. but that part can be below the fold so that it shows thru the backside of the package. Then flip side of the template descripiton lines.. what ever yu can think of if there's room. I'd like the blanks for locule number, plant height, leaf type, flavor, comments, days to maturity, number per cluster, color.. all the usual stuff. Will that be enough information for a label for you.. or do you think we need more? Dave PS.. i also want a blank area where we can put a picture into the template. Is that possible? And to let you know.. i'm subing you out.. if anyone wants custom designed labels what should i charge them? You'd be doing everything? It'll go straight to you. Dave |
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Post by americangardener on Jul 8, 2009 10:51:01 GMT -5
OK.. one more thing before i go check my PM box.. anyone want to voulenteer to package tomato seeds? I'll pay ya.. maybe later. I need someone i can send a packag or two of two inch by 3 inch baggies of dried tomatoe seeds to who can then repackage em into smaller packages of a 1/16 tsp each. should turn out to be only a few of em. I'd say if you can make 8 smaller size ones and send them back to me for each larger size baggie that'd be good enough. You can hold onto the rest of the seeds if you want to make more packages..Just that there's only 8 labels per sheet of paper. I'll send the template with the seeds to package and just use ziplocs. put the labels in each one... and if you think it'd be easier just photo copy the label that comes with it. My printer/copier dosen't work right now.. or else i'd do it for ya.. but anyways.. anyone want to voulenteer? And how much do you want?
Dave
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Post by silverseeds on Jul 8, 2009 14:38:39 GMT -5
I met american gardener over at idig. he linked me here, and so far seems like a great place, Ive been poking around. So far people and goals here seem great. I sent this to american gardener in a PM but he thought I should post it here. I felt strang doing so as it would have been my first post, but if he sees value to it then I guess its good, have a good time people
You want to work with and build a bank of seeds with conditions and people who might not be the best growers. So I was thinking and possibly have a way around possible cross pollination issues. okay the year you start, have them set up an account to order from you maybe. Make it clear on your site where your seeds are from and how they are being grown. offer to ANYONE to buy their grown out seed bought from you only. of each sale. But I wouldnt just buy random seed from anyone personally, they could just get a tomatoe from a store, sure the seeds will be fine but who knows what variety youll be all messed up. with growers you trust, sell seed as normal comerrcially grown seed. with ANYONE else sell it as amatuer grown seed, for maybe 1/2 or 2/3 of the other seed you trust. So when they send seed back, at the end of the year, give them a credit to their account but dont let them use it yet. so now your selling their seed. Maybe have trustworthy growers sell for 2 lets say, and seed labeled as grown out by amatuer or something sell it for less 1 or 1.5. So anyone whos buys this seed will be told there might be possible crosses, but it is unlikely as saving seed is simple etc etc. BUT if they do have a cross you will gladly EXCHANGE the seed. So if a new growers seed doesnt have complaints, let them use their credit, they built up and after a couple years move them into the safer seed category.
Offer the same deal to people with named varieties or ones the bred themselves. so you can increase you supply and variety. but if they dont get the credit until their seed is proven then they are mor elikely to take it halfway seriously plus if the seed is bad and you have to exchange it you will cover any overhead charges. obviously this wont attract many commerical growers, but then again maybe you cn single them out and treat them different since you can sell their seed for more anyway. could have a bonus for people who breed or find new varieties you dont already have, So over time theoreticlly you would build a base of people who save good seed, and have amassed you variety list for you, you can build a reputation as a place of good priced wide selections from the good growers, and cheap wide selections for the slightly adventuous or poor. with this system seems to me everyone wins, and if your upfront an honest there not much chance of making people mad, bc if they bought seed at their risk but with you willing to exchange it IF it doesnt breed true to type. but thats all up to you, could just be labeled as from amatuer source, at your risk at bargain prices. But once someone moves up and you trust them to grow good seed, pay them whattever is fair. but like I said dont pay them till you grew their seed out and know if it is good with decent germination. so after year 2 and there seed breed true you could then give them money or a credit or whatever. this should then spread the seed saving skills around ou there. not evryone would want to and obviously thats good because if everyone saved seed youd not have a company. I dont know if this helps but to me seemed like a way to incoproate even first time growers into the fold plus keep yourself with a positive name, just biyng any seed from anoyne wouldnt work, but this could, the right cpu program and a bookeeper to label, number and type everything into the cpu. wouldnt cause to much work to correlate each new grower with a number, which you put on the seed packet maybe,, if there are issues, people will complain and youll know somethings wAs with for that growers seed. You can then take it as you want, cancel their credit, or maybe lessen it and not let them grow for you.
Im not sure the costs involved and if this is even remotely relavant but, It seemed like a way to let amatuers in on the ground floor yet still have good seed, and then cheap seed. also selling in two tiers opens you up to more people. If you start building a little base, wel imagine the idig forum? I think they would line up, then of course your already trying to reach over seas so thats all the better.
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