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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 2, 2019 19:04:37 GMT -5
Hi, since the last post was from July 2017, and I'm a 1st time visitor, I wonder how far is the RPP-Project? I've been wanting to buy seeds from www.vreeken.nl, but he's having them for the 3rd year in a row as 'not available'. I'm a collector of red fleshed fruits (except strawberries) and this red podded pea would make a wonderful contribution. The peas I grow are mostly Corne de Bélier and Golden Sweet. I've tried the Blauwschokker once, since that's from my region of origin (Groningen/Drenthe, Netherlands), but I didn't like them. I prefer the mange touts. Hope to hear from anyone on this project, if the seeds are stable and available. Quintus I guess i'm the closest on this project. Still growing my odd red snap. I should have more seed available later this June. Fedco seeds is trialing them this spring. Visit my blog to see pictures. I'm also on the OSSI forum. -Andrew |
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Post by galina on Apr 3, 2019 0:47:30 GMT -5
Still not have a red podded that I am happy with. Shelling pea, no problem, but with mangetout or snow peas the red is not solid Too bad. I had parked that project for a year, but will see what this year brings. Still hoping that it might improve in later generations, like Templeton suggested.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 3, 2019 10:39:54 GMT -5
Still not have a red podded that I am happy with. Shelling pea, no problem, but with mangetout or snow peas the red is not solid Too bad. I had parked that project for a year, but will see what this year brings. Still hoping that it might improve in later generations, like Templeton suggested. Galina, PM me your address and remind me to send you some of my red snap peas later this summer too. I'm still not perfectly happy with them either, but technically they are some sort of snap pea and seem to be stable for color. They will at least be good for breeding stock. Honestly though I want to breed them into a good snow pea rather than the odd small shaped snap it is now. So that is my plan eventually. I need to try crossing it to Midnight Snow, my best purple snow pea. |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 3, 2019 11:07:23 GMT -5
Hi, since the last post was from July 2017, and I'm a 1st time visitor, I wonder how far is the RPP-Project? I've been wanting to buy seeds from www.vreeken.nl, but he's having them for the 3rd year in a row as 'not available'. I'm a collector of red fleshed fruits (except strawberries) and this red podded pea would make a wonderful contribution. The peas I grow are mostly Corne de Bélier and Golden Sweet. I've tried the Blauwschokker once, since that's from my region of origin (Groningen/Drenthe, Netherlands), but I didn't like them. I prefer the mange touts. Hope to hear from anyone on this project, if the seeds are stable and available. Quintus While I already planted all my red seed for this spring last week. I do have some seed for "mostly red podded" left. I could send you some of that if you don't want to wait. It's totally possible that there could be a good red podded in that batch. |
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Post by quintusnsachs on Apr 3, 2019 11:20:14 GMT -5
keen101 & Galina, sorry to read, the both of you are still not satisfied with your red podded peas. I guess you've got access to very many different peas. Yet I'd like to point to the distributor in Dordrecht (NL) who's my source for great seeds and potatoes. As I wrote yesterday, he's got one in his list, yet marked 'sold out' for the third year in a row now. Maybe you can find some new peas you've not encountered yet; www.vreeken.nl/113500-peulen-red-podded-pea Could be some of the pictures are familiar to you. Right now I'm enjoying three new raspberries that came in yesterday from France; Rubus idaeus 'Groovy', 'Tadmor' and Rubus rosifolius 'Coronarius'. But that's another topic. |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 3, 2019 13:24:42 GMT -5
keen101 & Galina, sorry to read, the both of you are still not satisfied with your red podded peas. I guess you've got access to very many different peas. Yet I'd like to point to the distributor in Dordrecht (NL) who's my source for great seeds and potatoes. As I wrote yesterday, he's got one in his list, yet marked 'sold out' for the third year in a row now. Maybe you can find some new peas you've not encountered yet; www.vreeken.nl/113500-peulen-red-podded-pea Could be some of the pictures are familiar to you. Right now I'm enjoying three new raspberries that came in yesterday from France; Rubus idaeus 'Groovy', 'Tadmor' and Rubus rosifolius 'Coronarius'. But that's another topic. Lol. Well, to be fair I do have some really nice looking red podded peas AND they also happen to be edible podded, so i am pleased with them in that regard. But like any project they could always be better. I personally think the flavor and shape of the pods could be improved, but it's minor I suppose. I have also been watching that site you linked to for several years, and I noticed some time ago that the pictures he or she is using have been ripped directly from Rebsie Fairholms blog. Some people get finicky about using other people's photos without permission, so either that person actually has seed that was originally from Rebsie herself, or that person never had any red podded peas to begin with. If you could email the site owner and find out directly that would be cool. But since they still are not available after all these years i am leaning towards believing that they will not be available from them for several more years. daughterofthesoil.blogspot.com/2010/04/red-podded-pea-update-f3-crop.html?m=1I felt mine were good enough that I decided to send them to Fedco seeds to trial them. If they like them they may sell them in the near future. Otherwise if you can wait until this summer I can send you seed of mine. Or send you non-selected seed now that might contain a few good red pods in the population. You can see my red podded pictures here: keen101.wordpress.com/category/peas/ |
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Post by quintusnsachs on Apr 5, 2019 15:57:14 GMT -5
... I have also been watching that site you linked to for several years, ... If you could email the site owner and find out directly that would be cool. Otherwise if you can wait until this summer I can send you seed of mine. Or send you non-selected seed now that might contain a few good red pods in the population. I'd be happy to do that. Next week he's sending me the seeds I ordered - no peas this time. (I've got some; Corne de Bélier, Golden Sweet, Shiraz, as well as Cooper, Eerste vroege Mei, Anika, Halfpint. I'm still looking for the one mangetout to match my taste.) I'll send Ton Vreeken an email tomorrow. If he's answering at all (I know he's always busy), I'll get back to you.
If you could spare some seed, I'd be much obliged. I've even got an address in Atlanta you could send it to. A familymember overthere visits Germany regularly, since he's a salesman. Just let me know over my standard email account - I check my email every day.
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 5, 2019 16:12:39 GMT -5
(I've got some; Corne de Bélier, Golden Sweet, Shiraz, as well as Cooper, Eerste vroege Mei, Anika, Halfpint. I'm still looking for the one mangetout to match my taste.) I'll send Ton Vreeken an email tomorrow. If he's answering at all (I know he's always busy), I'll get back to you. If you could spare some seed, I'd be much obliged. I've even got an address in Atlanta you could send it to. A familymember overthere visits Germany regularly, since he's a salesman. Just let me know over my standard email account - I check my email every day. Sure, I'll try sending you an email or PM later. Sounds like you really are interested in unique peas and vegetables. I was not impressed with Shiraz. It had decent purple color but flavor was terrible for a mangetout. Midnight Snow is an interesting purple snow bred here in California that I consider my best tasting purple podded snow. Sugar Magnolia is the best purple snap peas I currently have and were used to breed the red snap. And i'm working on tasty yellow mangetouts myself. You should consider helping the pea database I started. I'd like to know the differences of various pea varieties and genetics. You can find a link from my website, biolumo.com |
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Post by quintusnsachs on Apr 7, 2019 14:37:01 GMT -5
Sound wonderful. Yet... I'm a teacher in Dutch, Music, English, and Catholic Religion. I also have my Master in Special Educational Needs. My love for plants is mostly red fleshed and pears, and some other except cherries - that' be too easy. Since you're from California, in Etterville there used to live a man called Albert Etter. From all his work seven red fleshed apples remain. I've got three of them in my collection. I also have a little collection of Ribes and Rubus. The rest is just funny stuff; apples like Apistar, pears like Schweizer Hose, and white strawberries, pink strawberries, black raspberries, white blackberries (brambles). That' how I got to want a decent yellow mangetout or even a red one. My skills are surely not on the genetics and breeding. Sorry, that's just not my expertise. All I could do, is grow them and then select the plants with stable red color without any stripes, green peas, yellow peas, purple peas. As for that, feel free to let me be of this minor assistance.
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Post by philagardener on Apr 8, 2019 21:11:41 GMT -5
quintusnsachs , (at the risk of taking this thread off topic) if you are interested in Alber Etter, you may or may not know of his contemporary, Felix Gillet. Many of the unique California fruit varieties that Gillet introduced have been rediscovered and are being propagated and offered by this small operation: felixgillet.org/store/ . For anyone else interested in unusual fruits, it is a really amazing list of varieties (warning - shipping costs are not cheap!)
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Post by galina on Apr 13, 2019 10:58:28 GMT -5
Galina, PM me your address and remind me to send you some of my red snap peas later this summer too. I'm still not perfectly happy with them either, but technically they are some sort of snap pea and seem to be stable for color. They will at least be good for breeding stock. Honestly though I want to breed them into a good snow pea rather than the odd small shaped snap it is now. So that is my plan eventually. I need to try crossing it to Midnight Snow, my best purple snow pea. Thank you for this offer, I will post my address later in the year. You should have it already as I sent you some seeds a couple of years ago. I have crossed my yellow snap with Sugar Magnolia and had a big yellow snap in the F2 generation. Very happy until the very mature pods started cracking open. They did not actually dehisc, but I did not like the cracking tendency. It could have been the weather last year, we will know if it happens again this year. But to increase size, SM is a good one. It might work with Spring Blush too. My yellow snap was already bigger than Opal Creek, but it was as big as SM size last year in the F2. Maybe SM could be a good cross with your small red one too. You need to be lucky and persistent with the recessives though to get a larger red snap. |
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Post by galina on Apr 13, 2019 11:09:56 GMT -5
d apples remain. My skills are surely not on the genetics and breeding. Sorry, that's just not my expertise. All I could do, is grow them and then select the plants with stable red color without any stripes, green peas, yellow peas, purple peas. As for that, feel free to let me be of this minor assistance. We all pretty much started with Golden Sweet and then made crosses with that one, as it is the only widely available yellow variety. In theory it is very simple, cross a stable yellow with a purple pea, and one in sixteen should be red in the F2 generation. If the purple is a mangetout or snow pea, then you end up with an edible podded new pea too, as both parents are edible podded. To make a cross is not too difficult with a little dexterity and perhaps a magnifying glass. Have a look at this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq7-JGRmFBc |
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Post by galina on Apr 14, 2019 1:13:42 GMT -5
Great resource enjoyed browsing their catalogue. Not that any plant material could be shipped here.  |
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Post by quintusnsachs on Apr 15, 2019 11:12:06 GMT -5
For anyone else interested in unusual fruits, it is a really amazing list of varieties (warning - shipping costs are not cheap!) As for avoiding high shipping costs, I prefer scion wood. But it seems, sending wood from the US to Europe is almost impossible. |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Apr 20, 2019 12:23:30 GMT -5
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