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Post by Alan on Dec 16, 2008 13:38:23 GMT -5
is full of "evildoer" seed traders! This is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, if you haven't read this yet then check it out on the blog at homegrowngoodness.blogspot.com
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Post by stratcat on Dec 16, 2008 14:12:14 GMT -5
Good one, Alan! ;D
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Post by canadamike on Dec 16, 2008 14:50:30 GMT -5
How do you spell IDOTTTTT Alan, this is not even worthy of a response. Don't lose your energy on it. She is in the plant world what the Rush Limbaugh crowd is in politics. These people are like gophers. The only thing they'll ever understand is a bullet in the head. And since we're not exactly murderers and against violence, we have to let them be their idiotic self, and NO ANSWER is the best answer, it infuriates them. It might be my frenchness, maybe I did not get it right, but it seemed more targeting the homegrown crowd in general more than the ''homegrown'' brandind of the site.
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 16, 2008 15:48:20 GMT -5
May I just say Mike that your unintentional grammar slip amused me. When you wrote, as 'we're not exactly murders and against violence' According to my understanding of the role of 'and,' without a comma, you wrote: 'We're not exactly murders' and 'We're not exactly against violence.' Watch out Cassandra! I jest, I jest! ) At any rate, I agree with you Mike. Nothing infuriates instigators like silence. However, nothing misinforms regular folk like them as well. I do think this thing needs to be countered lest people become afraid of -shiver- seeds!!!!
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Post by americangardener on Dec 16, 2008 15:56:38 GMT -5
Absolutely a great response Alan. Eloquent and intelligent. Not a bit like what cassandra had posted. I couldn't find one piece of factual information in her entire post.
Correct me if i'm wrong.. but was she trying to say that only big agr companies should be distrubiting seeds? It's been my experience thru over seven years of seed trading that the seeds we traders circulate amongst ourselves are completely free of noxious weed seeds. I've yet to find a trade where there was anything other than the intended seeds in there. Not a single weed seed in over 7 years! Now commercial packets of seeds.. that's different. And they are allowed by law to have up to a certain percentage of foreign material in their packets. Those i've found weed seeds in.. and coming from places like peru or argentina where it seems most of the squash seeds are being grown nowadays. If she really has a beef with noxious weeds being distrubuted.. she's going after the wrong people.
I tend to think there's an alterior motive behind that post too Alan.. no one could be that ignorant and mis-informed. So, contrary to Mikes advice.. i'd say you have to challenge her on it. I doubt that she'd ever come back for that debate though.. it'd be really stupid to try and debate you on the subject.
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 16, 2008 16:11:21 GMT -5
Oh and I'd like to add (as I told Patrick) that every time I send out a generous, cleanly threshed and well saved packet of my own garden seed, I'm going to give a faux evil laugh...
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Post by canadamike on Dec 16, 2008 16:17:34 GMT -5
Sorry for the bad way of saying things Telsing Thanks for correcting me. I still haven't found one weed seeds in a homegrown packet...
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 16, 2008 16:21:46 GMT -5
Oh don't apologize, I enjoyed the slip I have never had problems with any shared seed but as for germination, I've had questionable seed from companies!
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Post by plantsnobin on Dec 16, 2008 16:54:34 GMT -5
We can look at this person as either someone paid by big business to be spreading fear and misinformation or we can see this person as ignorant of the facts. I can believe either. I do believe that companies are capable of trying to instigate mass hysteria, just as our government has done with 'terrorists'. I can also believe that there are people out there who are truly that ignorant, and they believe whatever some whacko tells them to believe. There are 'native nazis', so to speak, who think that people shouldn't be allowed to plant anything that wasn't here before whites stole the land from the natives. Sounds reasonable until you really think about it. I live in southern IN, and there have been fossilized Gingko leaves found here. Yet no one would consider the Gingko native here, everyone knows they are native to China, right? These people forget the fact, or don't believe the fact, that the world has been spinning for billions of years, seeds are bound to travel whether by man or other forces. I hope Cassandra does respong to your post Alan. Maybe if she is just misinformed, your blog can clear up her confusion. If she is a corporate plant, be proud that you are on their radar!!! OH, and expect to be audited by the IRS....
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Post by plantsnobin on Dec 16, 2008 17:01:34 GMT -5
And, Telsing, I sent the Allium seeds. Hope they arrive soon. I promise, there are no horrible 'homegrown noxious weed seeds' in the bunch!
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Post by grungy on Dec 16, 2008 17:06:38 GMT -5
Good going, Alan in your answer to her. I, also, have never had a problem with traded seeds. However there are three of bigger commercial seed companies with whom I shall not be wasting my money on. One sent icebreg lettuce in a packet labelled marigolds. Another sent (get this) toad flax that was suppose to be leaf lettuce. (Had the most beautiful straight row of toad flax that the local weed inspector insisted (and I am glad I did as I hadn't managed to meet this weed until then) that I pull and burn. The third company sent some supposedly sweet corn that produced exact 4 cobs of "corn" on a hundred plants. Not exactly sure what it had crossed with and consequently it too, was pulled and burned. I think I will just stay with seeds from all my gardening friends. By the way Alan if you like, we can post both Cassandras comment and you reply on our blog if. I would like to believe, like CanadaMike, if you ignore bad things they will go away, but I also know that a lot of newbies and even some oldtimers read these kind of rants and go away believing what they have read. Cheers, Val (grungy)
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Post by plantsnobin on Dec 16, 2008 17:19:53 GMT -5
Grungy-you have a local weed inspector? That seems really kind of scary to me.
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Post by Rebsie on Dec 16, 2008 17:24:28 GMT -5
I agree with all that's been said (well I would do, wouldn't I, being an evil so-and-so).
It does strike me as ironic that "she" thinks mechanically-produced commercial seed is safe from the nasty scary weeds and home-produced seed is contaminated. Most of the seeds I give away have been lovingly sorted by hand to ensure it's the purest and best I can manage. You don't get that with commercial seed.
To be honest, I think "Cassandra" is a troll. Just some sad moron with nothing better to do than to ruffle a few feathers on the internet and get a cheap kick out of it. Truly not worth anyone's time and energy. And if it is a real person, she's a complete feckin' fruitcake and again, not worth the time and energy.
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Post by ottawagardener on Dec 16, 2008 17:35:11 GMT -5
Robin: Thank you!! I'll look forward to seeing them in my mailbox, weed seed ;-) and all.
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Post by plantsnobin on Dec 16, 2008 17:50:01 GMT -5
You are very welcome, but, ah, my name is actually Karen. I'm not sure why people think I'm Robin....
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