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Post by canadamike on Apr 10, 2009 12:36:58 GMT -5
Apparently Telsing, you are in for a big deception. Dominique from Kokopelli told me the state of seed saving/heirlooms in these countries is horrible, with the exception of melons for Spain.....
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Post by ceara on Apr 10, 2009 13:55:13 GMT -5
Ok I sent a couple of emails and asked around. We shall see what comes of it.
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Post by canadamike on Apr 10, 2009 22:38:46 GMT -5
I've had seeds offered to my by a potuguese guy from Tomodori, a new member who sent me ''local'' seeds, i.e. seeds grown by the people in his town. All of them were french... he looked around a lot and found 2 portuguese melon varieties. ome of melao and one of meloa. Their melons have a sex  The winter melon is of one sex and the cantaloupe/muskmelon is of the other... So I guess we can hybridize them  |
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Post by hiven on Apr 12, 2009 2:56:16 GMT -5
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Post by ceara on Apr 12, 2009 8:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by extremegardener on Apr 12, 2009 8:54:19 GMT -5
Woo hoo !
11 varieties of Couve Tronchuda - a bunch of them are in the category "White Cabbage"
I have placed an order, looks like they ship to the US, we'll see...
Thanks Hiven!
Now, does anybody know what a Lombard cabbage is? They appear to be savoy. I'll start a new thread....
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Post by hiven on Jun 12, 2009 11:42:17 GMT -5
Extremegardener, How was you CT, did you get your seeds and have you sow them  Please let us know the result |
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Post by grungy on Jun 12, 2009 13:00:01 GMT -5
Hiven, we order some to. I plant several of the varieties and they are up and awaiting transplant. Would you like some seeds, we have lots.
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Post by hiven on Jun 12, 2009 16:46:58 GMT -5
Thanks for your kind offer Grungy, I have a generic Couve Tronchuda (don't know which CT). The plants are now about 35 cm tall and 40 cm breed (seeds were sow from early march). Please keep us up dated about your CT, I will try to take a picture of my CT tomorrow and post it here  . |
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Post by hiven on Jun 29, 2009 8:18:09 GMT -5
EG, How are your CV ? Mine (a generic CT) are growing to 1 foot tall with big leaves... [a href="  "] [/a] What type of CT are you growing ? |
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Post by extremegardener on Jan 17, 2010 16:17:08 GMT -5
EG, How are your CV ? Mine (a generic CT) are growing to 1 foot tall with big leaves... [a href=" "] [/a] What type of CT are you growing ?[/quote] So sorry not to answer sooner, Hiven - during the growing season here it's insanely busy trying to do everything that must be done in a short time. I'm just now trying to catch with what's going on here at HG. Here are the three CT varieties I grew with the seed from JardiCentro:    This last one is Chaves, photo taken 11/30 here, so you can see some frost damage, but it held up to the cold the best of the three during the fall. The other two photos were taken in October. They all were very nice in caldo verde (potato soup). They are under the snow now, and I'm curious to see if they'll overwinter - if we can keep the hordes of deer away. The leaves are big enough so that all you need is one or two leaves for a meal. The were also good in kimchee... Thanks for the tip on JardiCentro - the seed was not expensive, the packets huge, and they shipped to the US, no problem. How did yours do? |
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Post by mjc on Jan 17, 2010 18:04:03 GMT -5
I've got one from Pinetree, I think, just labeled Tronchuda that I'll be growing this year. I'm interested to find out if it is one of the ones that have been mentioned in this thread (my guess is that it is likely to be the most common one, Portugesa).
There's apparently 17 available varieties from Gatersleben...only a couple of them are named. And two in CGN. And only about 350 cabbages in GRIN, without the ability to refine the search, easily, to narrow in on the tronchuda types.
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 17, 2010 20:17:34 GMT -5
They certainly are attractive if nothing else and I hear they are quite tasty as well. I'm going to have to add this to the list.
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Post by hiven on Jan 18, 2010 4:31:06 GMT -5
Thanks EG, your tronchuda kale looks lovely ! Mine survived -12C 2 weeks or so ago (under a thic fleece). It has thaw now, I should remove the fleece and see how it is now.
Mine reached 2 food tall with lots of leaves and some side shoots.
Telsing, the young leaves turned out to be tender and sweet during cool period, very tasty. I used them not just in soup but also blanched (and seasoned) and stir fried with noodles and alike.
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Post by ottawagardener on Jan 18, 2010 9:56:43 GMT -5
That is a great endorsement. The leaves remind me of the way cauliflower wrappers look, quite beautiful.
BTW, Red Cavalier Kale has survived weeks of very cold (-10 to -20) temperatures and being coated in thick ice. I have a couple uncovered to see how they do.
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The winter melon is of one sex and the cantaloupe/muskmelon is of the other...
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Please let us know the result 
