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Post by johno on Jan 8, 2010 5:22:13 GMT -5
I ended up with about 2 gallons of bolls. Haven't had a chance to separate them by color and de-seed yet.
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Post by Alan on Feb 15, 2010 20:25:54 GMT -5
I just deseeded and segregated color types today, what a pain in the ass!
I am of course also selecting for staple lengths as well and seeing some improvement. Are you going to follow out any selection this season Johno.
Jo has been kind enough to share some new accessions from GRIN with me this year that I look forward to trialing. From here on out several of us should be able to develop some new varieties.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Feb 15, 2010 21:42:35 GMT -5
Ya know Alan, you and John are in this for the science side of the deal. I'm in it because it's how it's supposed to be... sort of living archeology. Remember, I'm figuring that any day now, about 3/4ths of the population is gonna kick the bucket and me and the guyslettes are gonna have to make do the way folks have made done for the first few thousand years of humankind. I promise, I know every toilet paper manufacturing facility in the US, where it is and how to get there... That will be the FIRST place I'm heading!
BUT seriously... if you want me to help you out with any data gathering, selection, etc., you'll have to give me EASY step by step instructions. I'll be happy to be part of the process. Cotton is used in making toilet paper AND money... imagine that...
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Post by bunkie on Feb 16, 2010 15:12:19 GMT -5
a big DITTO from here jo! ;D
i'm getting ready to start the cotton seeds alan gave me inside.
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Post by cortona on Feb 18, 2010 12:10:38 GMT -5
Dear all, i'm interesting on tryng some colorated cotton seeds and if somebody need to grown isolated a variety i can grow it! around here you cant see cotton nowere so surely it is true ...
i'm happy to be here and be part of the thingh, i'm a hobbystic breeder and ... here is a lots of fun!!!!!!!!!
compliments to you all for the work you do in breeding so much things!
Emanuele
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Post by Alan on Feb 21, 2010 20:35:52 GMT -5
Ya know Alan, you and John are in this for the science side of the deal. I'm in it because it's how it's supposed to be... sort of living archeology. Remember, I'm figuring that any day now, about 3/4ths of the population is gonna kick the bucket and me and the guyslettes are gonna have to make do the way folks have made done for the first few thousand years of humankind. I promise, I know every toilet paper manufacturing facility in the US, where it is and how to get there... That will be the FIRST place I'm heading! BUT seriously... if you want me to help you out with any data gathering, selection, etc., you'll have to give me EASY step by step instructions. I'll be happy to be part of the process. Cotton is used in making toilet paper AND money... imagine that... Same here Jo, same here. It's funny, in talking to Carol Deppe aout plant breeding and reading Dave Christians Seed We Need site and talking to other independent breeders I definitely know now that I"m not the only one breeding for survivalist situations, actually that's what motivates most of us in breeding, selecting for regionally adapted and improved seed with improved traits for the inebitable day that shit hits the fan so to speak. Mostly I want to develop new colors with good staple length, that spins free of the seed and maintains good agronomic traits for low input growth in Southern Indiana, and thanks to you and Johno and Bunkie, we now have one hell of a genepool to get into the hands of the people who need the seed. Emanuelle, send me a private message with your postal address and I'll send you a few seed from my genepool my friend. |
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Post by mnjrutherford on Feb 22, 2010 10:22:13 GMT -5
Alan, you say "spins free of the seed". I've never heard that descriptor before. What does it mean? Is sort of like "cling" versus "freestone" in peaches?
Community counts. Trouble is there are to many members of the community who have no interest in reality unless it's reality TV which in my opinion at least, is about as unrealistic as it can get.
Anyhow, I was again confronted with the notion that I need to "register" the cotton in order to grow it. However, the person telling me this couldn't say who it needed to be registered with. The reason given is boll weevils. Any idea how to find the rules and regulations of such a thing?
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Post by mjc on Feb 22, 2010 10:43:33 GMT -5
Jo, cotton is one of those crops that is generally heavily regulated on the state level, usually depending on the commercial viability of it in any particular state. Most of the northern states and some of the midwestern states have little or no regulations on it, while the southern states can vary from sane to outright ridiculous. So, you would probably have to check with your state agricultural department or maybe the local extension office can be of some help.
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Post by Hristo on Feb 27, 2010 7:33:55 GMT -5
The coloured cottons are among the few non edibles I'm interested of. Have only one variety A7 Brown (from Sandhill) The fiber is 2-3 cm. long. P. S. This thread is nearly 2 years old. Why you wait someone with only one variety to post the first photo?  Attachments:
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Post by mnjrutherford on Feb 27, 2010 10:51:01 GMT -5
Well, if all goes well, sounds like we will be sending cotton seed as far away as Italy and Bulgaria? =o) I like your photo Hristo. Looks a lot like the brown I received from Alan. I don't have the photo bug in me. Plus, to much time tending other things. ;o) Like making shoes. By the by, I've discovered that cotton makes good shoes...
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Post by bunkie on Feb 28, 2010 11:16:41 GMT -5
...... By the by, I've discovered that cotton makes good shoes... good to know jo! great pics hristo! it does look like the cotton and seed alan sent me, too, jo. i'll post pics later of how ours does. alan, thanks for mentioning 'seed we need'. i hadn't heard of this and looked up the site and found it full of great info! www.seedweneed.com/index.html |
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Post by grunt on Mar 1, 2010 1:39:36 GMT -5
Did you notice the size of the cobs on the plants he is standing next to?
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Post by darwinslair on Mar 1, 2010 9:33:13 GMT -5
Did you notice the size of the cobs on the plants he is standing next to? I think Dave is kneeling in that photo, but still good sized. My painted mountain got taller, and had smaller ears. Tom |
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Post by Alan on Mar 1, 2010 23:24:14 GMT -5
Joe, spinning free of the seed is tantamount almost exactly to freestone vs. clingstone. It's nice to select for the trait which gives us the cotton as nearly whole as possible from the seed itself and from my experience thus far, most of the cottons haven't been selected heavily for this trait, or if they at one time were it has long since been lost.
Hristo, excellent pic my friend, that variety is in the mix with about 14 others now.
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Post by mnjrutherford on Mar 2, 2010 6:15:34 GMT -5
That's pretty interesting. I'm wondering if that trait would cause the fibers to be weaker? It would seem logical to me that cotton would have historically been selected for fiber length and absorbency. Those would have been the higher priority qualities for textiles. I wonder what the fibers look like under a microscope.
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