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Post by MikeH on Jan 25, 2012 17:39:40 GMT -5
Experienced Lupin planters, As my lupin beans are just arriving now, should I plunk them in the ground, or wait till spring? I'm really very excited about these. If your new arrivals are these, then Lupini. A mid-early dwarf plant about 18" high. Plant 3/4" deep every 2", rows 18" apart, after last frost. Thin to 1' between plants. Plants require a steady supply of water. Produces numerous pods which mature in stages from the bottom branches up. Havest as the flowers die. Regards, Mike
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 25, 2012 17:53:47 GMT -5
Ray, we have very similar weather. Today it was a balmy 70 degrees, tonight it will be 35. The rhubarb is up, and the acacias are blooming, so beginning tomorrow I start seeding, peas tomatoes more rhubarb more broc, cauli, cabb. It's too wet to seed anything put peas and favas, I was just thinking that those lupins might like it? Thanks Ray, I've waited so long for this seed, I'd hate to lose it now! Steve, I've been reading that lupins can be double cropped with grain, or tilled under just before corn as a great way to increase the fertility of the one with the other, so I'm think about trying this with sorghum. At the very least it will be verra purdy. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 25, 2012 17:54:44 GMT -5
Oh, Steev, I was thinking the same thing.
A very big salty batch all at once and then canned.
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Post by steev on Jan 25, 2012 21:40:13 GMT -5
Holly, is that photo lupini? Looks like rhubarb.
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Post by zachary on Jan 26, 2012 0:34:21 GMT -5
Thanks for all that info Holly. Based on that I think I would put lupins in the survival food category. Too much trouble to make it part of the regular diet. The things look about perfect for a Plan B food supply, especially if that remediation drill for cooking them is followed.
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Post by zachary on Jan 26, 2012 0:46:29 GMT -5
Lupini. A mid-early dwarf plant about 18" high. Plant 3/4" deep every 2", rows 18" apart, after last frost. Thin to 1' between plants. Plants require a steady supply of water.Cool and wet seems to be the ticket for these. But the description reminds me of why I get annoyed with recommended seeding practices. Planting seeds two inches apart then thinning to 12 inches means a lot of waste. I tend to locate these types of plants at the desired distances at the outset. As an example okra gets put into 'hills' of two-three seeds, and so would these. That way the thinning process isn't so wasteful.
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 26, 2012 13:11:20 GMT -5
Zachary, I never thin. I throw away the directions and plant the seeds where they are going to be. Less wasteful, and I know where they are. When I find one carrot, I can put out a hand span and know where the next one should be.
Not all Lupins like it wet. The Desert Legume Project is working with Lupins that need no water, other than what they get with the spring rains, sort of like the Native American corns and beans of the SW.
The Lupins of Greece and Sicily are wild things, coming out rocky/sandy soil. A high protein Plan B food source that fixes nitrogen, improves soil, and I can feed the greens to the chickens. (Maybe).
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Post by zachary on Jan 26, 2012 19:52:26 GMT -5
Not all Lupins like it wet. The Desert Legume Project is working with Lupins that need no water, other than what they get with the spring rains, sort of like the Native American corns and beans of the SW. I'm pleased that the ones I ordered from Seeds of Italy like lots of water, but I'm going to see if I can buy some of the desert types too. BTW, thanks for those details for the preparation of the lupines. When trying strange new foods a person just can't be too careful!
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 30, 2012 13:19:39 GMT -5
www.israelikitchen.com/eating-local/shuk-ashdod/When you go through the photos, there's one of a street vendor selling lupini beans. Now don't I wish I could cook like that at the farmer's market. I was shocked when I found that they sell for $7 a pound!
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Post by 12540dumont on Feb 22, 2012 12:58:43 GMT -5
The first of the Lupini are up. Now to plant the rest of them! Hi Ho Hi Ho! It's off to work we go. I wish I could start the ding dong rototiller by myself. I wish I knew the name of the engineer who designed machines with 6 foot pull cords. I'd like to wrap it around his neck and pull. (Of course I'd still have to stand on a box). Grump Leo thinks it's funnier than heck, thinks we should do a "funniest home video" of me starting the rototiller. Looks just like slapstick. Holly gets box, stands on box, pulls cord, box falls over, Holly falls in dirt. It's enough to make a grown woman cry with frustration. If I invented tools, they would all run on super light weight batteries, charged by a docking station where you parked them. Flip a button and go. No power? Optional Solar charging station. Optional extra batteries. Stupid tools, made only for tall men. ARghhh! Attachments:
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Feb 22, 2012 13:07:53 GMT -5
Stupid tools, made only for tall men. ARghhh! That's odd, because I'm always complaining about every tool being made for short women. Well not every every... I was in the hardware store one time and noticed hoes with an extra 6" on the handle. I bought the entire stock! And last time I repaired the tiller pull rope, I replaced the short pull rope with a seven and a half foot rope. I really aught to add a foot extension to the Earthway seeder. Talking about slapstick: That's me trying to hunch over low enough to get the seeder down the row.
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Post by cortona on Feb 22, 2012 14:05:02 GMT -5
if they dont collapsenow that decent temps are up i can tell that lupine can be a winter crop in my winter they survived the drycold spell and now it have survived the snow cover we have had, and at today they are green and ok(fingers crossed) so sowing it in octoer can be a good way in mild winter(my lowest temps this winter are around -10c°)not that good are the peas that are a bit more sad looking, the worst but still with hope are the broadbeans: the biggest plants are severally cold damaged but wewil see if they recover.
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Post by cortona on Feb 22, 2012 14:06:45 GMT -5
ps Holly immagine me that i'm 180cm wen i start to work on the garden with all the tools that are fitted for the rest of my family that are at least 20 cm shorter tan me...
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Post by 12540dumont on Feb 22, 2012 15:33:34 GMT -5
Cortona, and Joseph, I know, tall people have issues as well. It's a sad state of tools!
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Post by cortona on Mar 30, 2012 14:09:41 GMT -5
the lupines two day ago...it are really doing good!
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