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Post by MikeH on Mar 30, 2012 16:08:34 GMT -5
Emanuele, are they the ones that I sent you? They look fantastic.
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Post by cortona on Mar 30, 2012 20:50:50 GMT -5
no mike, i've plan to sow your lupine next growing season(so in october) because wen i've recived your this one are sowed and sprouted your are so precius that i dont want to risk crosspollination at all, the ones on the photos are the ones i've shared with Holly, i hope for a good harvest in order to have more pure seeds to share in autumn.
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Post by 12540dumont on Mar 30, 2012 21:24:24 GMT -5
They look great Cortona. The wild ones in the hills are already flowering here. So far, even the gopher's aren't eating them. Wouldn't that be great, a legume gophers don't eat! Here's the ones Raymundo sent me, between the parsnips and the celeriac. They're going to be beautiful! Attachments:
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Post by MikeH on Mar 31, 2012 10:42:56 GMT -5
Emanuele, Yeh, I'm concerned about crossing as well. I've got some of your lupines via Holly plus some sweet lupines from Raymondo plus my Altrei blue lupines. I'm trying to get an idea of isolation distance. I'm seeing numbers that are all over the place - 600 metres, 500 feet, 25 metres, 50 metres, 300 metres. One wonders if anyone is actually growing lupines or just talking about growing lupines. And then there's this: Blue lupine is highly self-compatible, highly self-pollinated, and fully capable of automatic self-pollination, i.e., self-pollination within the closed flower is independent of insect visitation.I think I'll isolate all three since I'm just trying to increase seeds this year. |
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Post by cortona on Mar 31, 2012 13:19:30 GMT -5
i think that more visible are the flower more it are think for to be pollinated by insects so lupini is a showy one and this let me plan to grow it in different year to save seeds.
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Post by canadamike on Mar 31, 2012 18:25:27 GMT -5
I just bought sweet lupins in Montreal , in an italian grocery store.
I tend to have a pretty finnicky mouth. Almost to the point where my girlfriend thinks I sometimes hate veggies, which makes me laugh, but once I have my brains set to a certain level of excellence in tasting a way to cook a veggie ( or a number of excellent ways) , I tend to despise ordinary stuff, most of the time the result of lazy cooking.
And I do NOT mean complex recipes are best, quite far from it.
Would anyone suggest me a great recipe for them?
I would like an introduction to them that gives them a chance to be part of my diet in a good way, I love simple gastronomy much much better than protein eating...
Italian cuisine is to me the epitomy of simplicity making the taste of everything shine.
Help me please...
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Post by MikeH on Apr 4, 2012 6:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by MikeH on Apr 4, 2012 6:38:29 GMT -5
Would anyone suggest me a great recipe for them? Most Italian references point to eating them as a snack food. Perhaps roasted with garlic powder and salt and then consumed with the appropriate amount of beer.  . I'm planning on grinding for flour so I wouldn't know about such snack things.  Regards, Mike |
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Post by castanea on Apr 7, 2012 12:05:06 GMT -5
I just bought sweet lupins in Montreal , in an italian grocery store. I tend to have a pretty finnicky mouth. Almost to the point where my girlfriend thinks I sometimes hate veggies, which makes me laugh, but once I have my brains set to a certain level of excellence in tasting a way to cook a veggie ( or a number of excellent ways) , I tend to despise ordinary stuff, most of the time the result of lazy cooking. And I do NOT mean complex recipes are best, quite far from it. Would anyone suggest me a great recipe for them? I would like an introduction to them that gives them a chance to be part of my diet in a good way, I love simple gastronomy much much better than protein eating... Italian cuisine is to me the epitomy of simplicity making the taste of everything shine. Help me please... Let us know if they are really sweet. I have bought a variety of "sweet" lupins, mostly from Italian and Greek groceries and found that about half actually are sweet. |
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 17, 2012 16:09:15 GMT -5
Lupins being lupins Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on May 1, 2012 16:50:08 GMT -5
One of the lupins from the Desert Legume Project. These were planted in during the winter, they've survived frost and have received no supplemental water. The bad news for lupins...yep the gophers eat them. Bastards. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on May 16, 2012 17:10:13 GMT -5
I'm very pleased with these. Next year I'm going to start a lot more. As soon as the favas finished blooming, the bumble bees moved straight over to the lupins. I have not irrigated these. Not once. Attachments:
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Post by MikeH on Oct 9, 2012 6:18:48 GMT -5
What type of Lupin is it Mike? A sweet white that was being developed as a fodder crop alternative for the southeastern US in the late 80s. I stumbled across it when I was researching sweet lupines and sweet lupins. Scrolling down, it was this article - www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/v5-115.html - that led me to search for White lupin, a potential new crop for Alabama which led me to www.crops.org/publications/cs/articles/45/5/1941 and this little gem Tifwhite-78 had good grain yields and survived five consecutive days of temperatures between –2 and –16°C. Once I had the variety name and the fact that the variety had been released by the USDA, I was able to source, request, and receive seed from the USDA. Now I'm trying to multiply the 40 seeds that I received. I didn't plant them all so I have some to try again next year if this year's drought delayed growth doesn't allow the seed pods to ripen before cold finally destroys them. So far they have handled -2C under a row cover with no problem. They need some sun and warmth though to get to the finish line. I'm probably going to shift my focus away from "Altrei coffee" lupins because of the greater versatility of sweet white lupins and the apparent ability of Tifwhite-78 to handle cold. That gives me a longer growing season within which I might be able to offset the effects of drought if I can plant earlier as well as stretch the end of the growing season if needed. As for coffee substitutes, wild chicory which grows everywhere here makes a very acceptable latte. And it's very easy to process. BTW, searching for white lupin and white lupine at USDA-ARS - www.ars.usda.gov/main/main.htm - will give tons of hits. You have to do a fair bit of panning but there are nuggets to be found. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 9, 2012 11:46:54 GMT -5
Clarice Coyne is in charge of lupins at GRIN. She's not as fun as Molly to work with, and she won't make recommendations. They have a bitterness chart in there somewhere as I recall, so if you're going to order lupins from them to trial, check the bitterness factor.
By the way, bitter lupins may need more processing but they are more gopher resistant and drought tolerant. Something to consider if you are in the desert or have voles.
Also, Molly Welsh is going to retire this year, so if you have bean requests, you should get them in soon.
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Post by MikeH on Oct 10, 2012 6:34:19 GMT -5
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