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Post by 12540dumont on Aug 23, 2011 19:08:22 GMT -5
Emanuele, Here is a photo of my Nostrano agostinello from Foggia. This is the one that the pigs got in, so it's a bit spotty. I'm glad your corn is working out. How is the rest of your garden? When are you going to post photos? Have you ever heard of a company called Antico Mulino? It's an Italian Company that manufactures small mills (corn, wheat, etc). Regards, Holly Attachments:
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Post by raymondo on Aug 25, 2011 3:05:26 GMT -5
Good to hear you had a successful season.
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Post by cortona on Aug 25, 2011 16:58:46 GMT -5
wel Raymondo tel that this is a sucessful season in too big, is a season that have some little success and some learning progress, but some failure and a lot of mistake, but .... learn is good, net year i can work with lots more seeds and more interessant one so i'm happy i've started this spring. thanks you write here, this remind me to go to the field tomorow to pick the matured hears!
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Post by Alan on Aug 26, 2011 0:24:21 GMT -5
Cortona, I have greatly enjoyed following your updates on your project and definitely keep us all informed. Theres lots to learn for sure, when I started Astronomy Domine at the end of the first year I only ended up with about 20 cobs from a population of about 1,000 due to animals, but from that population (and additional genetics) I built up something that has now traveled the world and is being selected far and wide for diverse climates. Keep up the good work my friend! wel Raymondo tel that this is a sucessful season in too big, is a season that have some little success and some learning progress, but some failure and a lot of mistake, but .... learn is good, net year i can work with lots more seeds and more interessant one so i'm happy i've started this spring. thanks you write here, this remind me to go to the field tomorow to pick the matured hears! |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 26, 2011 1:25:50 GMT -5
Tonight I cut the corn off about 8 dozen cobs of Astronomy Domine sweet corn and put it in the freezer. They were culls from the patch, and left overs from market, mostly bi-color white/yellow. The most colorful cobs are being left in the patch as seed. Some small percentage of the (after cooking) kernels were green. My favorite colored cob was deep pink. My favorite colored kernel was a steel blue. Here is what some of it looked like as I was cutting: A purple cob, a white cob, a yellow cob, and a brown cob.  |
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Post by cortona on Aug 28, 2011 5:47:41 GMT -5
some photos after all:  that are the hearlyest of all. it are almost surely rom the papago corn but one of the blue corn produced a realy nice cob in the same time...so i wil probably use it happily totaly as seeds for the net year  that one probably are of different origine but it show lots of crossing on a withe base so can be good too  a photo of my patch...it looks realy stunted by the drynees but...i'm looking for strong selection pressure!  |
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Post by bunkie on Aug 28, 2011 10:23:07 GMT -5
lovely pics there cortona. looks ethereal!
joseph, looking at the pics of your ears on the other thread, i liked the pink cob also, and caught the steel blue kernal too as beautiful!
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Aug 28, 2011 10:35:22 GMT -5
Cortona: Good work. Thanks for the photos.
Bunkie: With the cobs I have tested so far, the light pink color does not survive cooking. It leeches out into the water, and the cob ends up looking like a standard bi-color white/yellow sweet corn.
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Post by cortona on Sept 4, 2011 15:55:34 GMT -5
ok, a little bit of news and a question, i've harvested more cobs some realy interesting(one that i think is from a grunt corn sample that are realy greath, yellow red kernels, fat and healty looking cob)but in some little cobs probably from papago corn the ears show some tassel, little but it are realy similar to tassels...another cob have some kernels that are almost surely sweet, in a normal flour cob, i know is possible but never appen to me, another cob show sadly some dent caratteristic, can it spread the dent caratteristic so widely that too much kernels on the other cobs can be dent?(if i remember right dent is flour xflint but..dent x flour? wath happens?)photos of the cobs in the next days now is time to go sleep!
thanks in advance to all your comments and help!
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Sept 4, 2011 16:06:40 GMT -5
It's easy enough to select against the dent corn... After the corn dries fully, it will be easy to see which are dent, which are sweet, and which are flour or flint.
If you have flour and sweet kernels in the same cob you can select the sweets for planting next year. (The sweets will still be sweet next year.) You can plant the flour kernels from those cobs, but next year you will also get some percentage of sweet kernels showing up.
From time to time I find tassels coming out of the tips of cobs. Even more rarely the cobs and tassels will get all jumbled up together inside the husk. The jumble most often happens on tillers.
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 5, 2011 19:18:26 GMT -5
Cortona, Here's the first corn from Carol Deppe's, Cascade Creamcap. In the background the first beans from the Italian Heirloom Bean trial: Cannellini Genovese. I'm worried about the Italian corn, maybe you should give me something sweeter to say to it besides "Hey Polenta! Andiamo sbrigati!" I'm so glad your corn experiment is going well. Regards, Holly Attachments:
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Post by cortona on Sept 6, 2011 7:12:18 GMT -5
ok, thanks to all for the reply! yep, i wil select visualy against non flour kernels, hoping this work, holly wel give me the english text and i wil translate for your corn in italian, but " datti una mossa, ti prego cresci, per favoreeeee works fine but....ti faccio finire nell'insilato work better , ricordati che il freddo fà male is even better!hihihihihihihi
nice hears, the cascade seems realy nice and i think it looks realy near wath i want from my corn, but exploring the possibility of breeding my hown....is a lot more funn!(but for the next year i have some painted mountain to add in my mix!)
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Post by oxbowfarm on Sept 6, 2011 7:30:28 GMT -5
Cascade Creamcap is a flint I think. Any idea if Fertile Valley is going to release the Magic Manna series this fall/winter?
Cortona, it seems to me you have a good start there. For color breeding it seems like you can get what you want faster by breeding on a white breeding platform, the endosperm color genetics show up visually immediately and if you are crossing with red you can de-tassle your white corn and with red corn as a pollinator and get a lot of genetically red seed on your white. Am I right in thinking this? I am sort of planning my Tuscarora flour corn crosses based on that idea.
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Post by cortona on Sept 6, 2011 13:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by 12540dumont on Sept 6, 2011 16:08:34 GMT -5
Beautiful popcorn there Cortona! Makes me want to get out the butter and a movie.
Regarding Carol's corn. I got it directly from Carol. She has a very limited open order time, which I darn near missed. And, she only will send you a limited quantity. I was lucky to get 3 packs of corn from her. But I begged.
When I next write to her, I will ask.
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