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Post by olddog on Oct 20, 2011 10:31:27 GMT -5
Oops, I should have checked my facts, it is just that I took it for granted, (this happened many years ago, and I always wondered), when an old neighbor gave me some beans, black, that it was the runner bean I planted there near it, that was the cause of the beans coming out white. So what you are saying is that it would have had to be the fact that they had already crossed and I did not know it, or my neighbor down the way, grew some that crossed with mine. Forgot to check that they were different species, duh.
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 20, 2011 21:00:06 GMT -5
Left to Right Fratelli Ingeloli Stregonta Bolgna - Biggest Producer Borlotto Lamon - Control Bean Climbing Kidney All of these beans had in common their party flecks and growing, they look like Tierra del Fuego, Tongue of Fire Beans. From these 4 next year I can only grow 2. The Stregonta is actually purple striped when growing. I'm harvesting Polenta corn tomorrow, so I'll get the rest of the beans up as soon as I am able. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 29, 2011 20:27:41 GMT -5
The Sicilian Beans Badda Bianco, Badda Nero and Monaco Mussu Niuru. The Badda Nero was the last bean out of the field. These beans also have some of the highest protein. 26.8-27.1% The interesting thing about the Badda Nero, is that it did not come all at once. The jar on the right where the beans are almost all black and white was picked first. In the second picking, the beans were 50% all black to 50% black and white. These all had a decent harvest. Remember I only got to plant 20 beans. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 29, 2011 20:35:53 GMT -5
Corallo Romanesco. Excellent quality and flavor as green beans; seeds large, oval, flattened, blackish brown, with a characteristic splitting. The splitting in no way affects the germination. Monachello, a beautiful cranberry colored ying-yang bean. I am so thankful that my Italian Father gave me the gift of farming. I wish he were here to see all of these beautiful beans. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 29, 2011 20:46:09 GMT -5
Borlotto di Vigevano - the earliest pole bean Grigio di Tolmezzo - A big brown bean. The gophers preferred this bean. Damn vile voles. I reseeded this one twice. Good thing for gopher baskets. Scozzese - the second earliest pole bean Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 29, 2011 20:52:07 GMT -5
And Cortona's Piattele Toscane. This was also very very early. The Violet's Butter Beans were in the middle of the trial to help with the crossing factor. The Butter Beans are really fun, every time you open a pod, you don't know what color they will be. They are still producing! All of the beans in the trial were finished when the butter beans came on. Not a bean for a short season or early frost. Boy though they can take the heat. And that my friends are the photos of all of the beans in the pole trial. Attachments:
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Post by castanea on Oct 29, 2011 20:56:25 GMT -5
The Sicilian Beans Badda Bianco, Badda Nero and Monaco Mussu Niuru. The Badda Nero was the last bean out of the field. These beans also have some of the highest protein. 26.8-27.1% The interesting thing about the Badda Nero, is that it did not come all at once. The jar on the right where the beans are almost all black and white was picked first. In the second picking, the beans were 50% all black to 50% black and white. These all had a decent harvest. Remember I only got to plant 20 beans. Very nice. Have you grown Zolfini?
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Post by 12540dumont on Oct 29, 2011 21:08:14 GMT -5
No, but I looked for it and couldn't find it for this year. I sent money to a seed saver (one of those from SSE). They took my money but didn't send seeds. So it's a good thing that there's folks like Dan, and Cortona, and Joseph..and and and
If you have it and can send 40 seeds, I'll put it in next year's trial. (I plant 20 and keep 20 to compare the results). Or, if you have a lead, let me know.
Regards, Holly
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Post by castanea on Oct 29, 2011 21:50:57 GMT -5
No, but I looked for it and couldn't find it for this year. I sent money to a seed saver (one of those from SSE). They took my money but didn't send seeds. So it's a good thing that there's folks like Dan, and Cortona, and Joseph..and and and If you have it and can send 40 seeds, I'll put it in next year's trial. (I plant 20 and keep 20 to compare the results). Or, if you have a lead, let me know. Regards, Holly I have seed from 2 years ago. Just send me a PM with your address (I know I should have it but am not sure where it is...) I tried to grow it last year in the summer and it does not like hot weather. It seems to grow best in the cooler spring weather. I should have grown it this year. The weather was perfect for it here in the central valley.
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 7, 2011 17:01:44 GMT -5
Okay, it's November and it's cold and look at this crazy Italian Bean. It not only reseeded itself, it's making beans! In November! Attachments:
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Post by raymondo on Nov 8, 2011 0:00:05 GMT -5
Poor deluded thing!
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 18, 2011 21:34:56 GMT -5
So, in some of the beans that I received this year, there were beans that were Not Italian. And some of them were not pole beans. Being a beaniac, I threw caution to the wind and planted them elsewhere on the farm. As many of you know the will pigs tilled up most of the bush beans so what you are looking at here are true survivors. Marche de Geneve - (Sorry no accents, please don't e-mail, we all know my French is limited to lingerie and boulanger. This was a fabulous green bean. Toscano, one of the earliest beans out of the field. Ireland Creek Annie - The pigs did not take them. I haven't eaten them yet, but soon. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 18, 2011 21:40:03 GMT -5
Stangenbohne Ilanz Green Beans - one of our favorite Green Beans. Yellow Romano's (Marvel of Venice) - The alternate Green Bean for hot weather and late summer. New Mexican Bolita's - Oh these are for burritos. And they are yummy and early and productive! Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 18, 2011 21:59:34 GMT -5
So, the beans I didn't get any of, due to the pig problem, and have lost are Bobis Bean, Carnico Rampicante, and Anellino Di Trento. I saved a very few of the S. Mateo, the beautiful red bean. The Miglio Rucci Bean, took a licking and came back to deliver many beautiful beans. Then there's the mystery beans between the Toscano and the Petaluma Gold Rush. As the pigs took out the row markers and in my hysteria, I was stuffing beans back in the soil, I have no idea what this bean is. I have photos of all the seed I was sent, and it just doesn't match anything. Beans darken and change with age, so we could wait, but what's the fun in that? So, we're going to eat it. (Hide the evidence!) What next? Next year we will plant 7 of the beans, double replicated, and do tastings of the beans in the green stage and dry. The following year we will do the other 7. By year 3 we have some good information as to yield, flavor, consumer preference, cooking times etc. It's bean a good year. Attachments:
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Post by 12540dumont on Nov 18, 2011 22:01:24 GMT -5
As for that deluded bean...darn thing went and made beans. It's November 18. Hey, we're eating these for Thanksgiving! Attachments:
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