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Post by kazedwards on Jul 11, 2016 21:10:43 GMT -5
Yes I save and plant them. I wait to start removing them until they get some color to them. I'm not sure how viable they are percentage wise but I haven't had a problem. I'm also not sure if that would work with other varieties or types but it does with mine. I never thought of cooking with them. I always have a ton left over so I will have to try it. I know they keep for a good long while. I still have most of them from last year with no noticeable change.
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Post by kazedwards on Jul 11, 2016 21:55:45 GMT -5
Are we using fingers, or tweezers, to get bulbils out? I'd opt for tweezers. Fingers. I've tried tweezers and what not but I have found after the first few they come out quite easy. |
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Post by kazedwards on Jul 12, 2016 13:25:23 GMT -5
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Post by reed on Jul 12, 2016 13:42:46 GMT -5
Well now I'm gonna have to go out and see if I can maybe find some later ones where the flowers are still alive and try this removal thing again. There is a patch over by the compost heap I haven't paid much attention too, it's in quite a bit of shade and might still have some live flowers.
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Post by meganp on Jul 13, 2016 2:37:02 GMT -5
I started removing bulbils today. @reeds Indian Homestead was cake. Maybe 30 seconds per umbel to remove. The bulbils were nice big and round. The smallest umbel had 18 bulbils and the largest had 49 The Chesnok Red took me around 5 minutes for the one umbel that I did. It was one of the split ones which do take a bit longer. I forgot how many layers of bulbils they have. The bulbils are long and skinny. You can only see perhaps 1/2-1/3 of them before you remove them. The ones underneath are much smaller but more round. Maybe a 16th of an inch in size. I removed 95% of them but on the others I will just get the outer layer and some of the inner. I will then get the rest of the inner a few days later once they get some color. The one Chesnok Red I did today had 334 bulbils and I'm sure I left a few. ] I remember that you counted the seeds you got but counting the bulbils??  |
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Post by kazedwards on Jul 13, 2016 10:17:24 GMT -5
I started removing bulbils today. @reeds Indian Homestead was cake. Maybe 30 seconds per umbel to remove. The bulbils were nice big and round. The smallest umbel had 18 bulbils and the largest had 49 The Chesnok Red took me around 5 minutes for the one umbel that I did. It was one of the split ones which do take a bit longer. I forgot how many layers of bulbils they have. The bulbils are long and skinny. You can only see perhaps 1/2-1/3 of them before you remove them. The ones underneath are much smaller but more round. Maybe a 16th of an inch in size. I removed 95% of them but on the others I will just get the outer layer and some of the inner. I will then get the rest of the inner a few days later once they get some color. The one Chesnok Red I did today had 334 bulbils and I'm sure I left a few. ] I remember that you counted the seeds you got but counting the bulbils?? Yes I was curious about the difference between the two varieties. I will not be counting any more except perhaps the umbel on the TGS plant. |
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Post by kazedwards on Jul 16, 2016 17:53:37 GMT -5
I removed the bulbils on 15 seed heads today. I'm sure I have thousands of bulbils now.  Also there were wasps and a bumblebee all over the umbels today along with several smaller bees. The wasps are very attracted to the garlic umbels I've noticed over the last three years.   |
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Post by reed on Jul 16, 2016 18:32:00 GMT -5
Thousands? Isn't that a little vague? You should probably count em.  |
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Post by kazedwards on Jul 16, 2016 20:21:47 GMT -5
Thousands? Isn't that a little vague? You should probably count em. Lol. Once was enough. |
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Post by garand555 on Jul 16, 2016 21:00:34 GMT -5
Hi all, I have an update: This is from a line that originally started as hardneck garlic. It did produce seed for me 2 years ago, which I lost until recently, so I know I should get some seed from it this year. I'm sorry, but I cannot remember which cultivar it is. I probably have 15-20 plants, all in the same condition this one is:  This next one is from my softneck-turned-hardneck that I had a photo of a few weeks ago. I didn't remove the bulbils from this particular plant so that I would have more to work with if I don't get seed from this line this year. What is encouraging is that, even with the bulbils, the flowers haven't shrivelled:  Here is a shot of a few of the plants that have had the bulbils removed. The flowers are bigger than the flowers on the plants with bulbils:  These obviously aren't coming along as rapidly as the other garlic that I have, which makes me a bit nervous, but on the other hand, the flowers are slowly turning purple and, more importantly, they have not shrivelled up. Either way, there isn't much that I can do at this point. Either they will open up and not be sterile, or they won't. Considering that I purchased the original seed garlic from the grocery store and it started out as a non-bolting cultivar, I think that I'm doing OK with this. |
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Post by meganp on Jul 17, 2016 1:52:26 GMT -5
Garand555 top photo looks promising for seed, great job
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Post by philagardener on Jul 17, 2016 4:27:29 GMT -5
Great start! Nice photos too! Thanks for sharing your experiences!
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Post by philagardener on Jul 17, 2016 4:28:46 GMT -5
Great start, and nice photos too!
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Post by kazedwards on Jul 17, 2016 9:43:44 GMT -5
Hi all, I have an update: This is from a line that originally started as hardneck garlic. It did produce seed for me 2 years ago, which I lost until recently, so I know I should get some seed from it this year. I'm sorry, but I cannot remember which cultivar it is. I probably have 15-20 plants, all in the same condition this one is: This next one is from my softneck-turned-hardneck that I had a photo of a few weeks ago. I didn't remove the bulbils from this particular plant so that I would have more to work with if I don't get seed from this line this year. What is encouraging is that, even with the bulbils, the flowers haven't shrivelled: Here is a shot of a few of the plants that have had the bulbils removed. The flowers are bigger than the flowers on the plants with bulbils: These obviously aren't coming along as rapidly as the other garlic that I have, which makes me a bit nervous, but on the other hand, the flowers are slowly turning purple and, more importantly, they have not shrivelled up. Either way, there isn't much that I can do at this point. Either they will open up and not be sterile, or they won't. Considering that I purchased the original seed garlic from the grocery store and it started out as a non-bolting cultivar, I think that I'm doing OK with this. Wow, great job. That top photo looks like it was already started swelling. Looks like you will get some seed from it. By now you should be able to remove the bulbils from the second picture. They should grow just fine still if you do. |
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Post by garand555 on Jul 18, 2016 9:29:22 GMT -5
Wow, great job. That top photo looks like it was already started swelling. Looks like you will get some seed from it. By now you should be able to remove the bulbils from the second picture. They should grow just fine still if you do. I fully expect seed from that. I have acquired seed in the past from that line. Those plants are clones, but they are clones of garlic that produced seed recently. It will be interesting to see how much seed it produces given that they are not plants that are the product of TGS, but they have produced it in the past. |
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