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Post by steev on Dec 2, 2016 23:45:50 GMT -5
Sorry if ruffled feathers seemed appropriate; if you read other threads, I think you'll feel better, seeing how many other Southerners participate, to the benefit of us all; some of our most valued, expert participants are in the South. Myself, although thoroughly (possibly woefully) Californian, have kinship/cultural roots deeply sunk in western North Carolina. No small number of Southerners moved North or West after the War Between the States. Aside from his being (currently?) in Minnesota, I've no idea of toomanyirons provenance; never noticed him being anywhere close to as opinionated as I am; so polite; maybe he's Canadian, eh?
"Northerner only old boy's club", say what!? Not only are many participants not "boys", there being many of the un-male persuasion, but many (myself sadly excluded) are not "old"; it's a big circle; c'mon in.
Hope you're not being negatively impacted by the fires; being in NorCal, these last drought years have made me a tad paranoid about fire.
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Post by bryajw on Dec 3, 2016 12:24:39 GMT -5
I've given away my extra TGS for this season. I hope some of them sprout for those that received them. Please let us know your results.
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Post by richardw on Dec 20, 2016 12:58:55 GMT -5
I'm sure thats a yes to all three questions, this summers TGS block has been hit with a small amount of rust, what's shown up is there are some less susceptible plants while some have died,even the bulbs are rotten, so enabling those stronger plants to produce seed must surely produce a line that is less prone to not only rust but other diseases
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 20, 2016 19:56:39 GMT -5
toomanyirons: For years, I was holding onto garlic varieties that are said to produce seeds in other gardens, for example, in Washington, Oregon, or the central valley of California. However, I didn't find seeds on them in my garden. So I culled the varieties that weren't producing seeds. These days, I only replant the 3 or 4 varieties that have produced seeds in the past. Sometimes, when I have my act together, and the crunch of fall harvests is not piled upon me too deeply, I'll save seeds AND bulbs together from specific plants. I'm not much for record keeping, so I can't comment much on the history of individual bulbs, but in general, plants that aren't making seeds for me are getting culled. Variety names in my garden are ephemeral. Eventually, I lose the names, and describe them by a phenotype. This year, I intentionally inter-mixed the 3 or 4 remaining varieties, so that they can more fully cross-pollinate if they flower at the same time. No worries. New seedlings are on their way. I believe that some varieties produce viable pollen for the patch, even if they are female-sterile. I choose to cull female-sterile plants in my garden.
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Post by nicollas on Dec 22, 2016 3:09:39 GMT -5
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Post by kazedwards on Dec 28, 2016 21:34:25 GMT -5
I started going through the dried seed heads today. I'm guessing I got a couple hundred or more seeds. They are still mixed up with the chaff which is a pain to separate from the seed. I'm seeing a lot good sized seeds so I hope they will have good germ. I will update later with the actual number of seeds.
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Post by kazedwards on Dec 28, 2016 21:40:57 GMT -5
I didn't mention that the above post is referring to Chesnok Red. I have not started going through the seed head of the one TGS plant that produced a scape. I am going to take a closer look but it doesn't appear to have produce any TGS.
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Post by meganp on Dec 28, 2016 22:03:35 GMT -5
Great job Zach:)
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Post by richardw on Dec 29, 2016 1:03:12 GMT -5
I didn't mention that the above post is referring to Chesnok Red. I have not started going through the seed head of the one TGS plant that produced a scape. I am going to take a closer look but it doesn't appear to have produce any TGS. Dam- bugger
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Post by richardw on Dec 29, 2016 1:05:52 GMT -5
Like onion seed, garlic would be better biffed in water and float off chafe and dust.
Good buy with the pasta strainers Tom
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Post by richardw on Dec 29, 2016 15:16:50 GMT -5
While re-moving bulbils this morning i found one umbel where the bulils were so lose that they could have fallen out, Joseph Lofthouse didnt you have some like that, ive set aside the cloves from this bulb and will mark these when replanted next year.
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Dec 30, 2016 0:05:21 GMT -5
richardw: I found a few plants where the bulbils fell out readily, but they didn't even go thru the motions of making seeds, so I kulled them.
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Post by kazedwards on Jan 5, 2017 22:04:37 GMT -5
Finished cleaning and counting the TGS tonight. Chesnok Red produce over 1500 seeds. Great year!!!
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Post by kazedwards on Jan 6, 2017 0:36:38 GMT -5
That will depend on wether I need the garlic in the ground for the kitchen or not. I prefer to leave them on the plant as long as possible because I noticed this year that the chaff was a lot harder to detach from the seeds. I'm carful when cleaning them because the seeds have a habit of crumbling. Then again the seeds that crumble might not germinate at all so I might be doing myself a favor by being rough on them.
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Post by meganp on Jan 6, 2017 1:06:49 GMT -5
Wow, can't find a gob smacked emoji. Am super impressed and envious. Been a miserably mild and wet season down this way and scapes haven't unfurled let alone any sign of the umbels filling out. Looks like my tgs is back on shelf for next year😪
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