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Post by potter on Jan 31, 2012 12:30:02 GMT -5
Oh..what can I say..glad that you enjoy..girl can only smile now.. ;D
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Post by potter on Jan 31, 2012 12:58:59 GMT -5
Do you mix your peas together too? That sounds so much interesting way of growing..  I'm just sucker for lists and labels..  ..I would love to be able to make just 'pick and mix' bag of seeds and get on with it. Oh, well...maybe one day I mellow out enough not to be so particular with my habits. ;D..it was the name that made me to buy those beans.. ..only time will tell if they are anything special otherwise |
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Post by 12540dumont on Jan 31, 2012 14:46:00 GMT -5
Potter,
I had a hard time finding those Comtesse Beans. The only place left that sells them is Two Wing Farms in Canada. So, I'm happy to hear from you that they are bushy. I won't put them on a trellis.
Potter, if you haven't mailed my package yet, can you throw in a few soup peas?
Joseph gave me the bug to try them. I haven't found many types here. Peas...proper peas are grown in the UK.
So which type of beans do you have on toast? I think you and I will have to do a bean swap one of these years!
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 31, 2012 15:25:52 GMT -5
Do you mix your peas together too? That sounds so much interesting way of growing.. I'm just sucker for lists and labels.. ..I would love to be able to make just 'pick and mix' bag of seeds and get on with it. Yup, my shelling pea landrace contains around 50 varieties. My snap bean landrace is around 40 varieties. This is the first time I am mixing species into a landrace, but what the heck... For me, it's just the opposite. It would be nice to be able to label a planting. I guess it all started 43 years ago, when I planted my first packet of seeds: It was the "1 cent jumble packet" offered by Guerney's as a way of introducing kids to gardening: Today I figure that it was just a hodge-podge of whatever they swept up off the floor. Back then it was magical to me. Since then I have always had a hard time labeling plants in the garden. |
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Post by potter on Jan 31, 2012 17:33:10 GMT -5
Yep..I sort it.. We have smallish white sort of beans on toast..bit like black eye beans..well I've used those too. I think majority of people just do tin sort rather than do it themselves. I'm sure tinned baked beans are same as there. Italians and creek seem to do some lovely beans in tomato sauce..but they use BIG butter bean type beans. Thats why I'm trialing those gigantes beans this year..they are type of runners but grown for their seeds rather than pods. As for bean swap... ;D  ..yep..one of these 'years' will do me. I've got loads and loads of varieties..but its all still small amounts..I never did much swaps..now last couple of years I've purposely tried increase the amount of seeds I save..rather than gobbling them into my tummy. |
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Post by potter on Jan 31, 2012 17:39:05 GMT -5
Can you still tell individual varieties apart or are they all starting to 'merge'? .
Peas are not that easily cross pollinated..usually..but as I've never grown the way you do I'm interested of the fact if and how much they will get cross pollinated over such a period of time when grown the way you do.
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Post by blueadzuki on Jan 31, 2012 17:46:42 GMT -5
For me, it's just the opposite. It would be nice to be able to label a planting. I guess it all started 43 years ago, when I planted my first packet of seeds: It was the "1 cent jumble packet" offered by Guerney's as a way of introducing kids to gardening: Today I figure that it was just a hodge-podge of whatever they swept up off the floor. Back then it was magical to me. Since then I have always had a hard time labeling plants in the garden. Sound like me and the mixed Lathyrus packet that Thompson and Morgan used to offer in thier catalog (which I think was designed as a catch all for any species or cultivars of the genus that didn't "make the cut" for being worthy to sell on thier own. Of course, I don't have the option of labeling anything, as they'd all read ___picked out of a bag. I'm planning to stick little labels in the rice bean stump to tell me where each color is (since I'm trying to see if some colors are not available to me in day neutral form.) and that's really all I can do. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Jan 31, 2012 17:49:43 GMT -5
Can you still tell individual varieties apart or are they all starting to 'merge'? . Peas are not that easily cross pollinated..usually..but as I've never grown the way you do I'm interested of the fact if and how much they will get cross pollinated over such a period of time when grown the way you do. I don't grow shelling peas as separate varieties, so I can't tell one pea from another... But when I send peas out people write reviews and say things like "The Green Arrow" sure did well, or "I liked the Lincoln". My nephew looks forward every year to the variety he calls "The Monsters". Here's what some typical pods look like:  The couple on the bottom are the monsters. They are becoming less common because they don't produce very well in my garden. |
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Post by potter on Feb 1, 2012 2:06:49 GMT -5
Wow..displaying like that your monsters do look huge..  Over here the actual pod size with biggens is not that enormous, but there is lot of 'filling in them'..not much gap between each pea and the pods are fat. Biggest pod that I've grown so far is variety Dorian..its 'your' Mr Big. For some reason its been re-named for us. We do have some HUGE snow peas here but that doesn't count. I love the look of those pods....hopefully the peas taste nice and sweet too..after all, that's all what matters..good taste.. |
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Post by Joseph Lofthouse on Feb 1, 2012 3:22:02 GMT -5
Biggest pod that I've grown so far is variety Dorian..its 'your' Mr Big. For some reason its been re-named for us. Big have some HUGE snow peas here but that doesn't count. I love the look of those pods....hopefully the peas taste nice and sweet too..after all, that's all what matters..good taste.. Yup, that's the name: "Mr. Big". Thanks for jogging my memory. The lady at the seed store didn't want to sell them to me, claiming that they were old seed because people didn't want to buy them since they don't grow very well for my neighbors. I told her I was after germplasm so it didn't matter. The pods grow really big, and they taste good, but there is mostly air in the pods. In my garden they certainly don't match the marketing photos that I see on the web. So unless I make a special effort to retain them, or get/do some crosses, they will eventually disappear from my landrace. |
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 29, 2012 21:29:42 GMT -5
I managed to plant these peas today:
Biskopens Ärt
Carouby de Mausanne
Purple Passion
I hope to plant the rest of the breeding peas tomorrow. I think i figured out that i can squeeze in about 18 varieties of peas, but not much more than that. I never thought i would ever have (or be excited to grow) over 18 distinct varieties of peas in my life. I used to think that all peas were the same!
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Post by keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.) on Mar 30, 2012 10:58:35 GMT -5
I managed to plant these peas today:
Shiraz
Bijou
Golden Sweet
Mighty Midget
Tom Thumb
Sugar Magnolia
Opal Creek
Amish Snap
Magnolia Blossom
Midnight Snow
Salmon Flowered
Mummy White
Mummy Pea (i think)
Aa92
Aa94
Umbellatum (green seeds)
Umbellatum (brown seeds)
Honey Pod
Kleinbluetige Mutante
Parsley Pea
...this year i planted them separate and labelled them. Last year i only planted five, but they were jumbled together which made it hard to know what i was crossing with what.
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Post by DarJones on Mar 31, 2012 18:49:36 GMT -5
Holly,
Comtesse de Chambord is a small bush bean with relatively weak root support. Grow them where you can hill dirt up around the stems to keep them upright. They are also a magnet for voles, gophers, and groundhogs.
DarJones
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Post by 12540dumont on Apr 2, 2012 14:51:08 GMT -5
 Dar, why or why does everything I love have to be a pest magnet? Oh boy, more hilling. I guess I better isolate these in baskets. Grr! Very pretty landrace turtle. Keen, I'd love to see a photo of Salmon Flowered.
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Post by blueadzuki on Apr 2, 2012 18:34:04 GMT -5
I particualry like the cream and crimson one. Reminds me of some of my cowpeas
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..I would love to be able to make just 'pick and mix' bag of seeds and get on with it.
..yep..one of these 'years' will do me.
Dar, why or why does everything I love have to be a pest magnet?