Anyone planning for next season(2012) legumes?

[deanriowa]

What is everyone thinking of possibly growing?

Here are my initial thoughts for next season:

Bush - Snap
Annelino di Trento
Cherokee Wax
Empress
Golden Wax Bush
Woods Mountain Crazy Bean

Bush - Dry
Biwa Sitter
Dr Wyche's Russian
Hutterite
Vermont Cranberry

Pole - Snap
Blue Coco
Bosnian Yellow Pod
Landfrauen
Lilaschecke
Major Cook's Climbing Bean
Migliorucci
Nell's Climbing Bean
Rattlesnake
Piattelle Toscane
Tarheel

Pole - Dry
Norcino

Cowpeas
Fagiolina de Transimeno
Holstein
Mayo Colima
Purple hull

Peas
Snow-Dwarf Gray
Snap-Sugar Ann
Soup-?? -Lookingfor one



I definitely will be reducing my list a bit, but then again I have a couple of other legumes I might be adding as well, at least this is a start.

Dean

[cortona]

hi dean, i've planted some withe lupine andit grow wel in my strange warm winter, i've planted too some soup pea(a semy pole type from graine baumax that have purple podd too)and i've lots of variety to tryal but unsure at today about wath to plant,i've planted 3 different variety of broad beans bt i plan not to save seeds from this but just tryal it.
I want to point that norcino(not norcio) is a pole variety and used for dry beans not snap, migliorucci is a pole and double use (snap and dry bean)hope it work good for you as i really care for it cse it are heirloom variety i saved, it was grow just from a single grower wen i find it!
best wishes!

[spacecase0]

I am trying a winter lentil,
it is a red lentil,
I planted them in fall and will try more in spring
wild life seems to love them lots
if anyone needs seeds, ask me (I got a pound that I have no hope of growing (annoying birds))

[raymondo]

Since our seasons are askew, I'll post what I have in the garden now.

Bush - snap
Broker

Bush - dry
Anasazi
Coco blanc nain
Hopi Black
Irago
Kilham Goose (actually a half-runner by the looks of it)
Vermont Cranberry

Pole - snap
Calabrian Express
Muffet
Rattlesnake

Pole - dry
Cherokee Trail of Tears
Le Tarbais

Cowpea
A cowpea from Nigeria
Tohono O'odham (doing very poorly - looking as if they will all die in fact)

Pea - snap
Cascadia

Pea - snow
Chamber of Death (seed increase)
Golden
Oregon Giant (seed increase)
Taichung No. 11 (seed increase)

Pea - soup
Capucijner
Subfrufrum

[Joseph Lofthouse]

I'm expecting to plant:

A shelling pea landrace (perhaps 50 varieties).
A ten day earlier shelling pea landrace.
A snap bean landrace (perhaps 30-40 varieties).
Kidney Beans
Siberian pea shrub

I'll be starting a dry bean landrace by planting several different bean soup mixes, and other dry beans.
I'll try again with snap peas.

I currently have Austrian winter peas, and shelling peas in the ground. Working on developing winter hardiness. I don't know why... Winter rye seems to make a much better winter cover crop for me.

I have three seeds of a cross between a purple podded soup pea (♀) and a yellow podded snow pea(♂). Also if I can find them seeds of a cross between a yellow podded snow pea(♀) and a purple podded snap pea(♂). I am looking for red podded peas in the F2.

Black Medic grows as a weed that I allow to reseed, and to grow in areas where it will not overwhelm the crop.

I would sure like to grow some locust trees.

One of my fields grows alfalfa as a weed left over from years ago when it was a hay field. I'll be trying to kill that off.

I have planted garbanzos and peanuts 3 years in a row and have nothing to show for it, not even a germinated seed. I'll probably torture myself one more time and plant them again.

[greltam]

I plan on planting:
Garden Peas - shelling types mostly. Would like to save for dry peas.
Pole Beans - Phaseolus Vulgaris. For green beans and drying.
* also small red beans and black beans I purchased from the store.
Lentils - I threw a package of the green variety on the ground on new years day, as an experiment. Also have a mix of blue, red, and green sprouting lentils I'll plant when/if the others come up.
Mung beans
Fava Beans

I'd also like to try growing peanuts..

[Walk]

Dry Bush Beans: Cannellini, King of the Early, Marfax and trialing this year Black Coco and Silver Cloud Cannellini.
Dry Pole Beans: Cherokee Trail of Tears, Cranberry, Gail Flagg, Gousey, Porcelain, Sangre de Toro, an unnamed Native American variety from a friend, and trialing this year Mayflower.
Runner Dry Pole Bean: Grammy Tilley
Snap Pole Beans: Early Riser & Purple Peacock
Dry Pole Pea: Amplissimo Viktoria
Peas: Oregon Giant Snow & Sugar Lode Snap

And, like Joseph, we also have some black medic which we let grow for a nitrogenous ground cover. Also have white clover on paths, and the occasional red clover, alfalfa, and vetch (although they are usually too rambunctious for most crops and end up in the compost).

[ottawagardener]

Okay, I"ll participate

Peas:

Hmm... let's see what I can remember off the top of my head (seed list on my other computer that is not set up at the moment.)

1. Abrogast - great pea, want to increase the peas. Thank you Leigh.
2. Yellow edible podded - poor growth this year, early die back because of fungal disease. Try in different location.
3. Some sort of sugar - Sure, would like some more too.
4. Spring blush - pretty but not terribly productive interplanted with the grape vines
5. Purple podded Capucijner dry - Always great. Thank you Patrick who gave these to me many years ago
6. Lincoln shelling or something of the like - I'd like more shelling varieties. Need to plant many, many more shellers as the kids eat most of them standing in the vines.
7. Variegated chimera (third generation) - Hopefully I'll get a third year of variegation. Very pretty and more tolerate of being interplanted with the grapes
8. Petite pois - Cute, not convinced yet.
9. Joseph's landrace includes purple podded shellers - did well, seed increase.

Beans:
Um... of the top of my head again. Did I mention the top of my head has memory releasing vents?
1. Cherokee trail of tears, originally from Cottage Gardener many, many years ago - not as productive in my new place. Need to grow more.
2. ? Cranberry, 5 years adapted to here. Known on the web as Ottawa Cranberry Yeah I know, annoying to mess with naming but I got the originals as shellers at a market and they just said, 'Cranberry beans' Very productive, early, trouble free. Want to grow more!
3. Hunter - great slicing bean. Could be a touch earlier.
4. Purple Podded(?) - not sure if this is that variety or a cross between Hunter and Cherokee Trail of Tears. I say this as I have evidence it IS that variety but also the reverse characteristics in another mystery bean. At any rate, early productive, trouble free.
5. Some sort of sulfur (oh it gets better)
6. Wax bean I saved from a friend (told you) Thanks Genvieve.
7. Fat seeded purple marked wax bean small and large seed
Crescent Shaped wax bean maybe Crescent - increase, productive over long period.
8. Chestnut - Thanks Dan! really productive.
9. Tiger's Eye, brown mutation - started from one or two remaining seeds. Need to increase. Pretty.
10. Vining Romano - nice, need more.
11. Montcalm Kidney - doesn't take to hasty drying... need to grow more.
12. Jacob's Cattle - nice, moderate productivity, need to grow more.
13. Molasses Face - very productive and trouble free.
14. Looking for something to grow inside, very early.

Peanuts:

1. Valencia - Seeking anything that is about 100 days to maturity if you have it. Southern Seed Exchange has some nice ones but don't ship to Canada.

Cowpeas:

1. Razorback (see I can remember if there is only one variety) Thanks various members of HG.

Runner Beans:

1. mixed but Scarlet and Painted Lady are in there. I'm thinking of gathering material for developing (just 'cause) a runner that is early, tender, and whose tubers/roots can be easily stored inside in the winter. Right now, I have a few tubers growing as a nice window plant. Vining or half vines would be nice too. Anyhow, these are just some thoughts.

Chickpeas:

Lots of variety here and most of their names are slipping my mind but I have

1. Winnifred's Garbanzo,
2. Kabouli Black,
3. typical chestnut variety,
4. some popping varieties (Thanks Frank) and various others from greenish to brownish to black, from rough to smooth to spotted. Helpful huh?

Soy:

1. Mixed from Alan (Thank you), meant for early eating.

Yardlong early - pathetic growth but I didn't give it its due so maybe this year it'll do better.

Lentils: I'll be expanding garden space and intercrop these between small perennials perhaps this year.

Trees etc...: sure, I have honey locust, siberian pea shrub and various cover crops and vegetables that are legumes/nitrogen fixers too.

Broadbean: Going to try them this year.

I've been tempted by sweet lupin, grass pea/chickling and more so we'll see how this list expands.

And thank you to anyone else who has contributed to my gardening diversity over the years.


Joseph: I'd be happy to send you a small sampling of my chickpeas if you'd like to try them. Have you tried Chickling pea as well? Winnifred's Garbanzo is really early for me. What peanuts are you growing?

Raymondo: Chamber of Death pea?

Spacecase: A winter lentil? I wonder if they will overwinter here??

[Walk]

Forgot we also grow edamame soy: Sayamusume and trialing Tankuro this year. Haven't had much luck with cow peas, yardlong beans, or peanuts in our area. Didn't yield well enough to justify the space, although they did make the attempt.

[oxbowfarm]

Bush - Snap
Provider
Rocdor

Bush - Dry
Kenearly
Feijão Rajado

Pole - Snap
Jeminez


Pole- Dry
Cutshort Landrace Mix
Succotash

Cowpeas
Grey's Favorite
fagiolo dolico ( dall'occho)

Peas
Snap- Cascadia
Snap-Sugar Ann

Soybean
locally grown yellow soybean no idea as to variety name.

Runner Bean
Blackcoat

[blueadzuki]

I get most of my seed by picking likley looking seed out of bags sold as food, so ALL of these shoud really be considered land races

Cowpea. The seed from the one mature pod I got off the white podded plant from last season. Plus a mixture of most of the other cowpease I've accumulated, which run the color and size gamut from small and red to large and black with red speckles (there's at least one blue seed in thier, as well)

Soybean The greater part of my planting will be a pint or so of black seed, consisting of every seed I picked out of the bags I went through that is shrunken or wrinkly (I'm running an experiment on whether soybeans have the same wrinkle gene as garden peas, and if they do, the effect on the taste for edamame). A few of the patio pots(which have better protection from rampaging chipmunks and squirrels) will also be sown with some larger seeded soybean I picked out that are a creamy green color. and maybe one or two other interesting candidates.

rice bean I'm dividing the large hollow stump in our yard into sections, each of which will be planted with one of the varios colors of rice bean I have saved (basically everything except flat red) with the hope of winnowing it down to the very few that are sufficiently day length neutral to flower this far north.

Adzuki/Mung/Urd beans (put together because I'm not planning to try and seperate these out into discrete sections) Once again a mix of all the odd colors I've collected, plus a few wrinkly adzuki's and one ENORMOUS one (the size of a pinto bean)

Peas/Hyacinth beans We usually don't have a good climate for these (it goes from too cold to too hot too fast most years for a good pea crop, and from too hot to too cold too soon for most hyacinth beans. But I have a handful of both lying around, so maybe I'll stick them in somewhere

Chickpeas a small assortment of desi (hard) types, both brown and green; mostly either with mottled skin or the "sticker" gene (a gene that makes the skins on the peas so rough that they become like velcro.)

Fava Beans a small number of selections from a bag of what I think were probably Marrone Bell peas, That I bought at a Mediterranian supermarket.

Sun Hemp (Crolataria juncea) a cousin of rattlebox, and as the common name suggests a fiber plant. I'm probably too cold for this, but I have a little seed I've picked out over the last few years, so what do I really have to lose?

I'm sure I'll think of a few more later

[ottawagardener]

Interesting projects blueadzuki.

[blueadzuki]

I'm just greatful that so many domestic legumes are primarily selfers, or I'd never have room for most of what I grow.
Actually, I waffling on the peas a bit. When I said "we arent right for peas" I mean we are REALLY not right for peas. Most years, the time between freezing (as in permanently frozen, not still a little frost) and broiling is so short that peas never get a chance to even flower. In good years the weather stayed cool enough long enough that we could get as far as full size green pods before everything fried. Ths latter is fine If I just want some veggies, but not if I need a few to get to maturity so I can put them away for the next year. I used to have a pea strain that could do that (the peas were miniscule, in both pod and seed (they were petit pois even when they were fully mature) and tasted pretty bad, but at least they were perpetual, but an unseasonable cold snap wiped out my whole supply. I've got maybe 20 peas (I counted since my last message) so they may go in on the grounds I have little to lose, but barring a miracle, it's probably a guanteed 100% loss.

[nuts]

fava beans(they are there allready)
big fava beans landrace(maybe 6 origins).grown for5 years.
feveroles(smal fava beans) 'landrace'

till last year I grew them in the same garden ffor two years.So I'm about sure to have crossings between big and small.

but now I grow them in seperate gardens,200 meter apart.
And I mix the smaller beans from the big ones to the mix of the smaller beans.

some peas(just trying)

(pole)runner bean
spagna blanca
spagna blanca(white flowered white bean) x unknown (red flowered,purple bean)f3

bean (pole)
stokkeivits
unknown

alfalfa,
vetch(cultivar x wild 'landrace')
lotus(wild)
latyrus(wild)
latyrus(cutivar from neighbour garden)
white clover(wild)
red clover(wild)

[keen101 (Biolumo / Andrew B.)]

Beans - Dry
Zuni Gold
Anasazi
Dapple Grey
New Mexico Black Appaloosa
New Mexico Red Appaloosa
Rio Zape

Beans - Runner
Four Corners Runner Bean

Beans - Pole
Pebble

Peas
Golden Sweet
Blue Podded (Blauwschokkers / Capucijner)
Biskopens Ärt
Midnight Snow
Honey Pod
Spaeth's Hohenheimer Rosablaettrige Futter
Virescens-Mutante
Kleinbluetige Mutante
Mighty Midget
Mummy-pea
Mummy White
red stem
Carouby de Mausanne
Opal Creek
Sugar Magnolia
Amish Snap
Salmon Flowered
Tom Thumb
Parsley Pea
Markana
Canoe
Purple Passion

I'm going to try and set up some small trellises so i can trial most of the peas mentioned, and maybe even cross many of them. But obviously if i run out of space (which is somewhat likely) i will have to narrow it down. Doing some crosses to get my own red-podded pea is part of the priorities.